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Benzina 1,359 68.98%
Motorina 611 31.02%
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Old 19-08-09, 14:18   #1276
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Oricum in comparatia de fata cred ca luam in considerare cel mai reusit motor diesel de serie care se fabrica la ora actuala si cu toate astea este se bate motorul de M3 din 92 3000 cmc aspirat 286 CP.

Oricum BMW a demonstrat cu motorul asta ca poti avea o masina diesel fara rabat de performanta, un motor care ar multumi pe oricine doreste cu consum optim si performanta foarte buna, doar ca este putin cam scump de nou dar este o solutie exceptionala sh in viitor.
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Old 19-08-09, 15:06   #1277
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Oricum in comparatia de fata cred ca luam in considerare cel mai reusit motor diesel de serie care se fabrica la ora actuala si cu toate astea este se bate motorul de M3 din 92 3000 cmc aspirat 286 CP.
crezi ca se bate? ) eu zic ca-l crapa M3-ul..
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Old 19-08-09, 16:00   #1278
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crezi ca se bate? ) eu zic ca-l crapa M3-ul..
Clar bate M3-ul dar trebuie sa tinem cont ca este si mai usor cu aproape 200kg, daca am egala greutatea cred ca se bat cot la cot.
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Old 19-08-09, 16:14   #1279
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acum puneti dieselu cu M3 ul in balanta ...e bine , dati semne de maturizare , si asta e numai meritu lu Bluey
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Old 19-08-09, 16:31   #1280
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Diesel din 2008 vs M3 din 1992. Nu uita asta.
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Old 19-08-09, 17:04   #1281
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acum puneti dieselu cu M3 ul in balanta ...e bine , dati semne de maturizare , si asta e numai meritu lu Bluey
diesel-ul ala de care zici tu e cam landmark-ul in materie de diesel. nu cred ca-l bate vreun diesel la 3.0. oricum, intr-adevar, nu are rost comparatia.. ideea e ca threadul asta nu se va solutiona vreodata cu vreo concluzie unanima..
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Old 20-08-09, 09:51   #1282
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Ce reprezinta aia ? Cea mai indopata varianta de 1.9 TDI vs cea mai slaba de 1.8 T ? Exista si 1.8T @ 225CP din fabrica. Chiar si asa 1.9 TDI este usor mai lent chiar daca greutatea este mai mica. De potential de tuning nici nu mai are rost sa se discute, 1.8T este deja consacrat, chiar si in tara avem cel putin un exemplar foarte interesant.
"aia" e o comparatie intre doua masini ale aceluiasi producator cu aceeasi putere si o mica diferenta la greutate...

daca se vrea diesel vs benzina consider ca asa trebuie pusa problema. la aceleasi specificatii nu genul 3000cmc benz vs 3000cmc diesel.
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Old 20-08-09, 09:54   #1283
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S-a ajuns la niste polemici perfect inutile pe zeci de pagini pe un thread cu raspuns banal: vrei performanta iei benzina eventual turbo, vrei consum redus iei diesel, este truism dar vad ca posesorii diverselor masini tot insista pe performante la diesel si consum redus la benzina, baieti voi revolutionati fizica frate.
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Old 20-08-09, 10:08   #1284
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pai topicul asta e cutia Pandorei pe orice forum pe sectiunea auto/versus.La fel arata peste tot.
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Old 20-08-09, 10:14   #1285
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Uite un site unde poti sa calculezi daca renteaza sa iti iei o masina noua diesel vs aceeasi masina noua benzina :

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/petrol...l/?deriv=41319

Si ei spun un lucru interesant :

http://www.parkers.co.uk/News/Motori...el-calculator/


Buyers may be wasting money on diesel cars


Hundreds of thousands of drivers choosing diesel new cars could be wasting money instead of saving it, according to research by Parker's.

Increases in the cost of diesel at the pump and price rises for new diesel cars are now preventing drivers from saving money by choosing diesel.

Many popular models need high six figure mileage to recoup the extra expense and some diesels always cost more than the petrol alternative at current forecourt prices.

Several years ago, the price of diesel on the forecourt was within a penny or two of unleaded. But recently the price of diesel has been significantly higher than petrol making it more difficult to save money choosing a new diesel car.

Parker's has cut through the confusion with a new calculator that shows whether diesel will save you money.
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Old 20-08-09, 10:25   #1286
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Se poate face performantza si pe diesel.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11unmz0V4DY Atentzie la timp
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Old 20-08-09, 10:32   #1287
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Se poate face performantza si pe diesel.....https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11unmz0V4DY Atentzie la timp
Se poate face si din cacat bici, mai si plesneste dar ce rost are?

Later edit : fumega ca o raba gata de casat diesel power, funny shit. Din clipuletele de pe youtube nissan sunny e mai bun ca porsche 911, nu vad relevanta clipului.

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Old 20-08-09, 12:32   #1288
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Uite un site unde poti sa calculezi daca renteaza sa iti iei o masina noua diesel vs aceeasi masina noua benzina :

http://www.parkers.co.uk/cars/petrol...l/?deriv=41319

Si ei spun un lucru interesant :

http://www.parkers.co.uk/News/Motori...el-calculator/


Buyers may be wasting money on diesel cars


Hundreds of thousands of drivers choosing diesel new cars could be wasting money instead of saving it, according to research by Parker's.

Increases in the cost of diesel at the pump and price rises for new diesel cars are now preventing drivers from saving money by choosing diesel.

Many popular models need high six figure mileage to recoup the extra expense and some diesels always cost more than the petrol alternative at current forecourt prices.

Several years ago, the price of diesel on the forecourt was within a penny or two of unleaded. But recently the price of diesel has been significantly higher than petrol making it more difficult to save money choosing a new diesel car.

Parker's has cut through the confusion with a new calculator that shows whether diesel will save you money.
Nu ti se pare ca acelasi lucru l-am spus de 100 de ori (la fel am zis si cu atentia la citit, nu citit printre randuri dar degeaba) eu acum ceva pagini, apoi tu te faceai ca intelegi altceva si aruncai cu pietre ca eu as fi zis de consum egal diesel cu benzina ?

https://forum.4tuning.ro/55-versus-au...ml#post2542122
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Old 20-08-09, 12:41   #1289
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Chestia cu rentabilitatea e valabila doar la dieseluri noi, la sh nu prea mai e valabil.

Si nu vad de ce te deranjeaza ca am postat un calculator online de rentabilitate la masini noi diesel vs benzina, iarasi, unde te-am cotrazis eu vreodata ca nu merita sa iti iei diesel sau ca e revizia mai scumpa etc? What's your point?
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Old 21-08-09, 20:04   #1290
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Eu aleg benzina altumva merge nu ca motorina "puturoasa" pentru masinile grele mari ..
Dar pentru sprint merge mai mult benzina eu benzina prefer
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