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04-05-10, 00:21
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
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Originally Posted by ELODIA GHINESCU
am mai spus de cateva ori, acest E63 amg nu prea este coleg de generatie cu rs6 cu toate ca se fabrica in acelasi timp. sasiul pe care este construit rs6 isi are originea in 2004 si este coleg de generatie cu E55 amg care la randul lui este construit pe platforma unei masini din 2002.
E63 amg este construit pe prima masina din noile mercedes E, seria 5 f10 si audi a6 c7.
si ce face autoexpress in testul lor comparativ mi se pare deplasat. ce dracu sa caute audi a6 langa acele masini ?
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A obligat cineva Audi sa tina un sasiu vechi sau sa scoata un RS6 dupa 4 ani de la scoaterea modelului si nu la 1-2 ani cum au scos BMW si Mercedes???? De ce nu au scos RS6 in 2005-2006 daca au scos sasiul in 2004?
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04-05-10, 11:29
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#407
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
Pai nu, dar asta este scuza lor, stau tot timpul asteptand sa vada ce scoate concurenta si dupa cativa ani vin si ei cu modelul la zi chipurile sustinand... domne suntem cei mai buni )
Viitorul Rs6 cred ca il vom vedea prin 2015 si atunci iarasi va fi in urma concurentei.
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04-05-10, 11:37
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#408
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
Inteligenta concluzie !! Asa incapabili sunt inginerii audi, halal de ei !
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04-05-10, 11:47
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#409
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Stage 5
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
Bine atunci baga tu o concluzie pertinenta de propietar de HAudi.
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04-05-10, 11:53
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#410
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
In afara de cei de la Audi nu stie nimeni motivul exact asa ca lasa presupunerile pline de "esenta".
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04-05-10, 12:03
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#411
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Stage 5
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
The truth is out there...
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04-05-10, 13:22
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#412
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Stage 5
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
1. Acum depinde si de constructor, Ford a facut un sasiu pe Focus care a dominat 12 ani.
2. Incapacitatea AUDI de a scoate un RS in timp si de frica esecului, sa scoata in acelasi timp cu un M si sa-si ia bataie ar fi un esec total si asa vanzarile RS sunt mult mai mici decat M, asa prefera aparitia M si dupa au etalonul care trebuie batut.
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05-05-10, 09:51
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
MINI & BMW are celebrating two victories in reliability. Europe’s largest automotive club has named the MINI, the X3 (made in the same factory the Countryman it about to be produced in) and the X5 as the most reliable in class.
Official Release: With two class victories and top marks for a host of other models, BMW and MINI have again performed excellently in the ADAC breakdown statistics. In the ranking list produced by Europe’s largest automobile club MINI emerged as the most reliable small car to take top spot in its class. Meanwhile, the BMW X3 and BMW X5 secured first and second places in the off-roader class. The two Sports Activity Vehicles suffered the fewest breakdowns due to technical problems in their segment, regardless of registration date. The BMW 1 Series, BMW 3 Series and BMW 5 Series range also earned top marks for an extremely low breakdown rate, putting them among the star performers in their respective segments in terms of reliability. The latest ADAC breakdown statistics include all models achieving more than 10,000 registrations in Germany in 2009.
The most comprehensive and representative reliability analysis covering all cars sold in Germany has again confirmed the high quality and reliability of BMW and MINI models. The latest statistics are based on analysis of over two million call-outs handled by the ADAC road patrol staff – popularly known as “yellow angels” – in 2009. In all the vehicle categories, BMW and MINI models are among the vehicles providing the least work for the “yellow angels”. Regardless of the vehicle segment, the probability of suffering a breakdown in a BMW or MINI is exceptionally small – proof that the high quality standards of the BMW Group apply across all its model series.
The ADAC calculate what they refer to as breakdown ratios to compile the ranking lists in the various vehicle classes. These figures are calculated using the breakdown frequency and registration figures of each model over the last six registration years. This list shows that BMW Group vehicles are among the most reliable in their categories, not only when newly registered, but also – thanks to an enduring level of premium quality – over later years. For example, MINI models registered between 2005 and 2009 are given the top mark “very good” (denoting extremely infrequent breakdown). The BMW 1 Series, BMW 3 Series and BMW 5 Series also stand out with their consistent level of reliability. All the model series achieve the top marks for cars registered between 2006 and 2009. The BMW X3 and BMW X5 – which have been included in the statistics since 2004 and 2007 respectively – have also been awarded the top rating “very good” without exception. These positive ratings enable the BMW Group to build on its outstanding showing in the ADAC breakdown statistics from earlier years, as well as in other studies carried out into the reliability and quality of cars. Their success has come as the result of a rigorous application of extremely high quality standards. The company’s premium claim spans the entire product creation process and includes vehicle development and material selection, as well as manufacturing processes across the BMW Group’s global production network. This gives customers the peace of mind that, by purchasing a BMW or MINI they will be able to enjoy not only exceptional driving pleasure, but also unbeatable quality and reliability.
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05-05-10, 09:56
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Girl on Road
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
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Originally Posted by Alexc2vtr
Pai nu, dar asta este scuza lor, stau tot timpul asteptand sa vada ce scoate concurenta si dupa cativa ani vin si ei cu modelul la zi chipurile sustinand... domne suntem cei mai buni )
Viitorul Rs6 cred ca il vom vedea prin 2015 si atunci iarasi va fi in urma concurentei.
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omfg, ma intreb oare de ce unii tin sa posteze idiotenii a la grădi, posibile teorii si concluzii, despre care habar nu au si cel mai probabil nu o sa afle vreodata, dar hai sa scriem acolo, poate..poate?
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05-05-10, 13:09
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#415
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Stage 5
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
OMFG OMG, incredibil, sunt un jucator de cauntar straic si scriu si eu pe forum ca e cul si am vazut eu ca audi ie bune si postez asa de dragul de a posta chiar daca nu am niciun argument, dar e misto, "da bine la public"
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05-05-10, 14:35
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
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Originally Posted by Sasha
omfg, ma intreb oare de ce unii tin sa posteze idiotenii a la grădi, posibile teorii si concluzii, despre care habar nu au si cel mai probabil nu o sa afle vreodata, dar hai sa scriem acolo, poate..poate?
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Ha ha, ce combatere formala neargumentata a unui admin.
In parte ce spune Alexc2vtr este adevarat, poate cam plastic si putin cam prost exprimata, dar cam are dreptate.
mai corect spus ar fi asa, repet:
"2. Incapacitatea AUDI de a scoate un RS in timp si de frica esecului, sa scoata in acelasi timp cu un M si sa-si ia bataie ar fi un esec total si asa vanzarile RS sunt mult mai mici decat M, asa prefera aparitia M si dupa au etalonul care trebuie batut."
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05-05-10, 21:37
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#417
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
intre seria 7 si a8 prefer a8-ul (ultimu seria 7 si audi-uri dupa 2000)
intre seria 3 e36 si audi 80 sau a4 b5 prefer audiul iar
intre a6 si seria 5 prefer cinciaru
intre e46 si b6 greu ca imi plac amandoua
intre audi 80 si ursulet prefer ursu.
intre tt si z-uri prefer bmw-ul
la suv-uri prefer iar bmw-urile
da mercedesurile nu prea ma dau in vant dupa ele
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05-05-10, 22:37
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#418
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Stage 5
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
Primele informatii despre noile motoare V6 si V8 de la Mercedes-Benz
Mercedes a anuntat detaliile noilor motoare V6 si V8 cu care va echipa modelele din gama sa. Emisiile de CO2 si consumul de carburant au fost reduse, iar cuplul motor si puterea maxima au crescut
Incepand cu vara acestui an, gama Mercedes-Benz va primi motoare V6 si V8 noi. Toate aceste propulsoare au un bloc motor de generatie noua, cu un unghi mai ingust, iar V8-urile au o capacitate cilindrica mai mica si sunt supraalimentate cu doua turbine pentru un plus de performante. Ambele tipuri de propulsoare in V primesc cea de-a treia generatie de injectie directa cu injectoare piezo-electrice, un sistem de combustie revizuit, aprindere cu mai multe scantei si angrenaje cu frecare redusa pentru reducerea consumului de carburant cu pana la 24%.
Motoarele V8 de 5.4 litri vor fi inlocuite de unitati cu o cilindree de 4.6 litri si primesc doua turbocompresoare, fiecare fiind montat pe cate un bloc de cilindri. Puterea maxima creste cu 12%, atingand 429 CP, in timp ce cuplul motor maxim creste cu 32 procente, atingand un maxim de 700 Nm. Aceste performante echivaleaza cu cele oferite de un V8 aspirat de 7.000 centimetri cubi.
Montarea turbinelor imbunatateste plaja de cuplu maxim, curba de cuplu si turatia de la care acesta este disponibil. Cu toate acestea, soferul nu simte deloc vreo intarziere a turbinei, iar motorul ofera 600 Nm intre 1.600 si 4.750 rpm. In cazul lui CL 500, model care va debuta in aceasta vara alaturi de noile motorizari, consumul de carburant scade cu 22 procente fata de generatia precedenta, in timp ce emisiile de CO2 ating 224 grame per kilometru.
Noile motoare V6 vor echipa modelel S350 din vara si CL350 din toamna lui 2010. Acestea renunta la unghiul de 90 de grade in favoarea unuia de 60 de grade, mult mai potrivit pentru configuratiile V6. Acesta reduce vibratiile in mod natural si ii ajuta pe cei de la Mercedes-Benz sa renunte la arborii de echilibrare, reducand semnificativ masa acestui propulsor. Spre deosebire de fratele sau mai mare V8, motorul de 3.499 centimetri cubi ramane un propulsor aspirat.
In comparatie cu generatia precedenta, motorul 350 CGI dezvolta 301 CP si 368 Nm. Cuplul motor maxim este oferit de la 3.500 rpm pana la 5.250 rpm. Versiunea precedenta a acestui motor oferea 268 CP si un cuplu motor de 350 Nm. Cei de la Mercedes-Benz subliniaza faptul ca adevaratele imbunatatiri la acest motor stau la capitolul economiei de carburant si al emisiilor. Astfel, in cazul lui S350 consumul de carburant este redus cu 24%, iar emisiile acestuia sunt de 177 grame CO2 per kilometru. Acest lucru transforma motorul V6 de 3.5 litri de la Mercedes-Benz in etalonul clasei avand in vedere puterea dezvoltata.
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05-05-10, 22:39
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Audi Driver
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
de unde ai informatiile? sau le stii de la tine? sursa!
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05-05-10, 23:33
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#420
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
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Originally Posted by CLM_Audi
de unde ai informatiile? sau le stii de la tine? sursa!
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Este comunicatul oficial Mercedes catre presa! E pe toate blogurile si publicatiile auto online, articolul ...
Last edited by UNLORD; 05-05-10 at 23:36.
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