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04-12-10, 12:10
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
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04-12-10, 15:56
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
Cāt de geu poate să fie să punem 5 cuvinte acolo īn care să explicăm de ce am pus filmul ăla de youtube şi ce vrem cu el?
Un rezumat aşa, din respect pentru cei cărora ne adresăm şi ne citesc postările, vă rog...
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04-12-10, 16:11
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
Merci de link.
Ce imi place :
- Au adus la interior multe imbunatatiri necesare vechiului model, oferind un aspect placut
- suspensia adaptiva
- vario roof
- 2.0L turbo cu 7G in loc de 1.8 compresor
Ce nu imi place :
- partea frontala
- lipsa unei cutii dublu ambreiaj spre deosebire de tt sau z4 .
- motorizarea v6 a ramas cam aceasi singura schimbare fiind injectia directa insa puterea a ramas neschimbata
- varianta amg va veni cu un v8 de aprox. 5.0L aspirat cand toata lumea alege turbo.
Per total nu consider ca merita un upgrade.
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05-12-10, 09:02
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
New 2012 Audi A6 vs. 2011 BMW 5 Series
Set to make its debut early next year, the 2012 Audi A6 was officially unveiled today. A competitor to the new BMW 5 Series and the Mercedes-Benz E-Class, the new A6 brings some of the design cues seen in the A8 model.
On the outside, the car still has the arched windowline that has remains a trademark of Audi sedans. At the front, the now famous Audi LED headlights get revamped as well.
With the new design, the A6 makes extensive use of aluminum and high-tech steel components, therefore the car is 176 lbs lighter than the current generation.The 2012 A6 is also shorter, sits lower and more economical than the old car.
Inside the new A6, the interior wraps around both the driver and front passenger. Leather and wood trip come to showcase the level of luxury expected from its customers.
At its market launch, the A6 provides both front-wheel drive and the all-wheel drive quattro system, and choice of five engines: the petrol powerplants range starts at 204-hp 2.8 FSI and the flagship is a 3.0 TFSI with 300 hp; in the diesels department,, there is first the 2.0 TDI, the 3.0 TDI and the 3.0 TDI quattro. The 2.0 TDI delivers 177 hp and the new A6 comes to CO2 emissions of 129 grams per kilometer, ie it is exactly on par with the BMW 520d F10. The V6 engine with front-wheel drive makes 204 hp and designed, while the four-wheel drive brings 245 hp.
The exterior dimensions of the A6 are relatively close to the BMW 5 Series, the Ingolstadt premium sedan is two centimeters longer. Despite the greater length of the Audi, BMW offers nearly six centimeter longer wheelbase and has shorter overhangs. The height of both models is 1.46 meters on the same level.
Inside, a standard MMI display comes with a 6.5 inch screen size, the largest available system provides 8.0 inches. BMW 5 Series has a standard 7.0 inch display and the larger model is 10.2 inches.
Sursa : http://www.bimmerfest.com/news/50273...1-bmw-5-series
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05-12-10, 11:17
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
Greutate
A6 3.0 TDI Quattro S-tronic : 1795 kg
530d , cutie auto : 1795 kg 
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05-12-10, 11:29
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
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Greutate
A6 3.0 TDI Quattro S-tronic : 1795 kg
530d , cutie auto : 1795 kg |
Salvati balenele 
Degeaba se agita Bmw cu start&stop cu ED cand ei fac balene de 2 tone
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05-12-10, 12:58
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Este foarte enervant start & stop. Noroc ca este doar pe motoarele de 2 litri.
Iar economia care o face este minima.
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05-12-10, 15:12
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
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Originally Posted by adrian78bmw
Salvati balenele
Degeaba se agita Bmw cu start&stop cu ED cand ei fac balene de 2 tone |
Faza cu start&go nu e decat o pacaleala chiar mai mare decat cea cu hibridele....ziceau pana si aia de la TopGear: "There is a moron thing near the steering-wheel called startkey....if u turn-it the engine stopes and on the other side after that uuuao: the engine starts again!" 
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05-12-10, 15:30
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
Eu stiu ca la pornire motoru' consuma mult combustibil. Si, oh ko, polueaza  . 
E un rahat asta cu "masini ecologice", o mare basina imho. La cat costa si cat poluezi sa construiesti un prius de ex, poti sa mergi linistit toata viata cu rabla ta euro 2 si poluezi nici pe sfert probabil.
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05-12-10, 15:34
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
Consuma mult la pornire daca motorul e rece.
Cand e cald nu e problema.
Dar ma gandesc cum e sa ai start stop activ (cum e la BMW) si sa circuli in Bucuresti la ore de varf. Nu prea vad viata mare la modulul de pornire, desi a fost facut pentru asta.
Macar e destept si la sub 4 grade, nu functioneaza.
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05-12-10, 15:35
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
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Salvati balenele
Degeaba se agita Bmw cu start&stop cu ED cand ei fac balene de 2 tone |
Cred ca Bogdan a vrut sa evidentieze si altceva si anume ca A6 cu Quattro si cutie dual clutch cantareste cat un 5-ar RWD cu cutie automata "normala" care e mai putin complexa. In ultimul timp vad ca BMW se ingrasa la greu, si nu numai, Audi e printre putinii care se lupta cu greutatea si au succes, actualul A6 3TDI quattro fiind cu ~ 80 KG mai usor decat precedentul, asta in conditiile in care e mai sigur, mai performant si mai bine dotat. De abia astept noul Audi coupe sport de 2 TONE sa fie in trend cu Seria 6 care e mai greu si decat A8 .
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05-12-10, 15:38
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
Audi de mult incearca sa usureze masinile, chestia aia cu space frame si plm. La B4 de ex, model pre 2000, erau aripile si capota facute din alu, este o masina mai usoara decat omoloagele de la Benz si BMW. Macar incearca. Dupa B4 au renuntat la ideea respectiva, oricum nu interesa pe nimeni cate kg are o masina. Intamplator, am un preten care are b4 si de la el stiu.
Mi se pare totusi de bun simt sa faci masini usoare daca vrei sa ai consum mic si sa poluezi mai putin. La o masina de 1000 de kg poti linistit sa pui un motor mic, noxe putine, in fine. Nu prea are legatura bunu' simt cu industria vad.
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05-12-10, 15:52
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
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Originally Posted by _anaconda_
Cred ca Bogdan a vrut sa evidentieze si altceva si anume ca A6 cu Quattro si cutie dual clutch cantareste cat un 5-ar RWD cu cutie automata "normala" care e mai putin complexa. In ultimul timp vad ca BMW se ingrasa la greu, si nu numai, Audi e printre putinii care se lupta cu greutatea si au succes, actualul A6 3TDI quattro fiind cu ~ 80 KG mai usor decat precedentul, asta in conditiile in care e mai sigur, mai performant si mai bine dotat. De abia astept noul Audi coupe sport de 2 TONE sa fie in trend cu Seria 6 care e mai greu si decat A8 . |
Da tocmai un seria 5 RWD e greu cat un A6 quattro sa nu mai zic de 750IX 2162kg cu 200kg mai greu decat un A8 4.2 quattro
Se pare ca s-au desteptat si cei de la Bmw si la urmatoarea generatie de X5 vor folosi un sasiu din aluminiu
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05-12-10, 20:06
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Re: Mercedes vs. BMW vs. Audi
eu nu stiu de ce sunteti atat de ofuscati ca o masina din clasa asta (seria 5 , A6 , E classe) cantareste ~1800kg...dupa voi cat ar trebui sa cantareasca?ar trebui sa ajunga la 1400kg?cat un E46?
uitati aici : Audi A6 2010 3.0 TDI FWD - 1720KG
BMW 535d F10 2010 - 1825KG
Merc E 350 (2987cc) 2009 - 1845KG
nu vad o diferenta prea mare de greutate intre ele.si nici n-as vrea sa le faca din carton sa ajunga la 500kg.
si o poza pt amuzament 
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