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View Poll Results: AMG vs M vs RS
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AMG
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30.45% |
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46.88% |
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22.67% |
16-08-13, 17:44
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#3091
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
Parca aparuse pe net acum juma de an o chestie de la "rar"-ul nemtilor, bmw inregistrand mai multe masini seria 3 cu 420 cp.
Nu cred ca mai exista companie in lumea asta care sa mai dea doi bani le traditie. Porsche cu suvuri si cu balena de panamera, ferrari cu awd si masini cu 4 locuri, bmw cu fwd, iar audi tot timpul a fost o prostituata care a gonit dupa marketshare, alocari de noi numere pt a inventa masini noi si a lua ochii consumatorului iar bmw vad ca urmeaza acest trend.
Chestia cu disparitia motoarelor aspirate e data de taxe si costul combustibilului, insa cred ca bmw trebuia sa pastreze un motor aspirat in gama pt impatimitii marcii.
Audi cred ca vor mai avea aprox 3 ani motoare aspirate.
W12 va ramane pe a8 pana la aparitia unui nou model, iar 4.2 si 5.2 fsi vor ramane pana la un nou R8(posibil ca 5.2 sa ramana si ulterior), respectiv pana la un nou rs5, rs4.
Nu inteleg care este rostul la petarda de 2.8 fsi de pe A6, a7 cand puteau sa foloseasca lejer 2.0tfsi. Probabil acesta va muri la aparitia unui facelift pt cele doua modele
Last edited by specialist; 16-08-13 at 17:46.
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16-08-13, 20:40
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#3092
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
Le dau motoarelor aspirate inca 3..hai maxim 5 ani cu indulgenta....pana o sa dispara de pe banda de productie....si pe buna dreptate....un motor turbo de 2l poate sa depaseasca ca si performanta un 4.0 aspirat....si cu un consum mult mai mic.
In 10 ani o sa consideram motoarele de 3l rachete...si peste alti 10 mai mult de 50% o sa fie electrice.
Da, consider ca ar fi super sa lase un motor aspirat pt impatimiti si colectionari.
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19-08-13, 16:02
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
De la CarMagazine: A 45 AMG vs. Bmw M135i vs. Audi S3
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It means, after 48 hours, 500-odd miles, 269 litres of premium unleaded, and three fresh shirts, the A45 AMG takes the trophy ahead of the BMW and the Audi, off-putting price tag notwithstanding. The M135i feels like a neatly spiced up 1-series, the S3 feels like an S-line A3 with more poke. In contrast, the A45 feels more AMG than A-class, more special than mainstream, more bespoke than bespoilered. For the time being, this Mercedes rules the microcosm that was once owned by Scooby, Mitsu & friends. But as soon as the 355bhp M2 and the next 375bhp RS3 are ready to pick up the gauntlet, we shall return to these dream driving roads for an encore.
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Last edited by UNLORD; 19-08-13 at 16:04.
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21-08-13, 11:40
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
Eu zic ca fiecare are ceva aparte, de aici si atatea diversificari.
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21-08-13, 14:22
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
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21-08-13, 18:50
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
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22-08-13, 14:04
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
Impresionante performantele pt un wagon de 2137 kg. Tot testul (Motortrend): http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...on_first_test/
BASE PRICE $103,295
PRICE AS TESTED $110,195
VEHICLE LAYOUT Front-engine, AWD, 5-pass, 4-door wagon
ENGINE 5.5L/577-hp/590-lb-ft twin-turbo DOHC 32-valve V-8
TRANSMISSION 7-speed automatic
CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST) 4703 lb (51/49%)
WHEELBASE 113.2 in
LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT 193.4 x 76.4 x 59.9 in
0-60 MPH 3.4 sec
QUARTER MILE 11.7 sec @ 120.4 mph
BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 110 ft
LATERAL ACCELERATION 0.95 g (avg)
MT FIGURE EIGHT 24.3 sec @ 0.84 g (avg)
EPA CITY/HWY FUEL ECON 16/24 mpg
ENERGY CONS., CITY/HWY 211/140 kW-hrs/100 miles
CO2 EMISSIONS 1.03 lb/mile
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22-08-13, 19:48
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
Quote:
Originally Posted by UNLORD
Impresionante performantele pt un wagon de 2137 kg. Tot testul (Motortrend): http://www.motortrend.com/roadtests/...on_first_test/
BASE PRICE $103,295
PRICE AS TESTED $110,195
VEHICLE LAYOUT Front-engine, AWD, 5-pass, 4-door wagon
ENGINE 5.5L/577-hp/590-lb-ft twin-turbo DOHC 32-valve V-8
TRANSMISSION 7-speed automatic
CURB WEIGHT (F/R DIST) 4703 lb (51/49%)
WHEELBASE 113.2 in
LENGTH x WIDTH x HEIGHT 193.4 x 76.4 x 59.9 in
0-60 MPH 3.4 sec
QUARTER MILE 11.7 sec @ 120.4 mph
BRAKING, 60-0 MPH 110 ft
LATERAL ACCELERATION 0.95 g (avg)
MT FIGURE EIGHT 24.3 sec @ 0.84 g (avg)
EPA CITY/HWY FUEL ECON 16/24 mpg
ENERGY CONS., CITY/HWY 211/140 kW-hrs/100 miles
CO2 EMISSIONS 1.03 lb/mile |
Singurul lucru incontestabil pentru care Mercedes Benz merita respect este ca odata la 6-7 ani ridica stacheta atat de sus si obliga restul producatorilor sa tina pasul.
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23-08-13, 13:46
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
Are peste o ora, dar merita fiecare minut:
Tot articolul de la Motortrend: aici (merita citit)
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23-08-13, 16:54
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
toata lumea lauda ultima generatie de 911.
630 cp pe amg black series 
sunt surprins ca audi R8 dupa 7 ani de la lansare, inca mai tine pasul.
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24-08-13, 12:08
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
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24-08-13, 14:25
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
De ce a scos Aventadorul,era prea puternic pentru gtr?
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24-08-13, 17:49
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
Ms GTR pt filmulet! Un Kombi pe locul 5 .....Imi place GT-R dar deja multi il prea ridica in slavi si a inceput sa ma irite rau! Deci....din punctul meu de vedere, Black Series si....restul lumi! Ah, si ce drac e fu focusul ala acolo?
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24-08-13, 18:22
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
Foarte interesant ce s-a intamplat pe circuit. Viper-ul mai rapid ca GT-R-ul si Mercedes-ul mai rapid ca ambele?
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26-08-13, 08:14
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
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Originally Posted by Overdrive
Ms GTR pt filmulet! Un Kombi pe locul 5 .....Imi place GT-R dar deja multi il prea ridica in slavi si a inceput sa ma irite rau! Deci....din punctul meu de vedere, Black Series si....restul lumi! Ah, si ce drac e fu focusul ala acolo? |
GTR este cel ami bun compromis pret/perfomanta dar SLS, Aventador, etc.. sunt masini superioare dar si la un pret pe masura.
Mercedes-Benz SLS AMG Coupe AMG SPEEDSHIFT DCT Black Series = 300k euro - 600 bucati.
Asa foarte interesante ca masini sunt si E63 AMG, RS6 si M5, care sunt niste limuzine cu valente sportive deosebite, niste masini polivalente superbe.
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