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View Poll Results: AMG vs M vs RS
AMG 493 30.45%
M 759 46.88%
RS 367 22.67%
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Old 20-03-12, 21:19   #2521
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daca ai ureche muzicala si esti pasionat apreciezi atat un diesel cat si un benzinar, au fiecare farmecul lor.
nu cred ca de nebuni au scos astia masini de top cu diesel sub capota.
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Va rog sa continuati pe topicul dedicat benzina vs motorina sau alte topicuri.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2wkyZhxT2M - daca tot sunteti fani diesel.
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Old 02-04-12, 22:06   #2525
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Misto serie:

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Old 12-04-12, 12:37   #2526
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M3 CRT vs. C63 AMG Black Series de la Autobild
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Old 17-04-12, 17:44   #2527
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Test cu Mercedes E63 Amg P.P. de la Motortrend
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Old 19-04-12, 14:52   #2528
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Un CLS mai mic:
Mercedes-Benz Concept Style Coupé
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Old 02-05-12, 15:22   #2530
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test cu toate masinile bmw seria 5 cu motor diesel de 3 litri:
http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/t...e-4854616.html

eram sa uit, m550d ajunge la 100 in 5 secunde. f repede.
oare lui x5 cu acelasi motor, cat ii trebuie? 6 secunde?
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M3 CRT vs. C63 AMG Black Series de la Autobild
Ceva nu mi-e clar in test-ul acela :

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0 - 130 km /h : 6 secunde
80 - 120 km/h : 5,9 secunde ? wtf ?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSaN8...layer_embedded frumos
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Ceva nu mi-e clar in test-ul acela :

C63 :

0 - 130 km /h : 6 secunde
80 - 120 km/h : 5,9 secunde ? wtf ?

Pai una e acceleratia de pe loc si alta sunt reprizele si elasticitatea. Am vazut ca BMW-ul e mai rapid la capitolul asta, cred ca aici isi spune cuvantul cutia cu dublu ambreiaj ... oricum intradevar, pare cam mare timpul la Merc, or fi laguri, nu prea stiu care e treaba exact.

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Si inca un test cu Mercedes-Benz SL63 AMG de la Insideline


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Old 06-05-12, 22:22   #2534
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Dupa 19 ani, Bmw se intoarce cu o victorie si un loc 3 din a 2-a cursa a sezonului DTM

1. B. Spengler BMW M3 DTM
2. G. Paffett AMG Mercedes C-Klasse
3. A. Farfus BMW M3 DTM
4. J. Green AMG Mercedes C-Klasse
5. M. Ekström Audi A5 DTM
6. T. Scheider Audi A5 DTM
7. M. Tomczyk BMW M3 DTM
8. E. Mortara Audi A5 DTM
9. F. Albuquerque Audi A5 DTM
10. R. Schumacher AMG Mercedes C-Klasse
11. C. Vietoris AMG Mercedes C-Klasse
12. D. Coulthard AMG Mercedes C-Klasse
13. M. Rockenfeller Audi A5 DTM
14. J. Hand BMW M3 DTM
15. M. Molina Audi A5 DTM
16. R. Merhi AMG Mercedes C-Klasse
17. A. Priaulx BMW M3 DTM
18. A. Tambay Audi A5 DTM
19. D. Werner BMW M3 DTM
20. R. Frey Audi A5 DTM
21. S. Wolff AMG Mercedes C-Klasse
DNF R. Wickens AMG Mercedes C-Klasse

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Old 07-05-12, 20:59   #2535
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sincer, chiar mi-am dorit sa iasa asa si asa a iesit.
pana la urma acest motor m550d nu e mare sfaraiala.

bineinteles ca din 3 teste facute pana acum cel mai bun timp pana la 100km/h a fost in 5 secunde si probabil pt un diesel cu atat de multe kg, ar fi trebuit sa aiba minim 420 cp pt a avea rezultatul estimat de fabrica , adica 4.7 secunde.

m550d:

0 - 40 kph-1.3 s
0 - 80 kph-3.5 s
0 - 100 kph-5.0 s
0 - 130 kph-8.1 s
0 - 180 kph-15.7 s
0 - 200 kph-19.2 s
0 - 100 mph-12.2 s


550i:

0 - 50 kph-2.1 s
0 - 100 kph-5.0 s
0 - 200 kph-16.7 s
0 - 100 mph-10.7 s
1/4 mile-13.1 s @ 109 mph


tre' sa ai o problema la cap sa cumperi m550d in fata lui 550i sau 550xi mai ales ca cele doua din urma sunt mai usoara, mai echilibrate intre punti si cu niste optionale de rand le faci racheta si mai ramai si cu bani.

apoi, nu pot sa nu observ ca A6 Avant cu doar 313 cp adica 68 cp si 90 nm in minus poate cam asa:


0 - 40 kph-1.4 s
0 - 80 kph-3.7 s
0 - 100 kph-5.3 s
0 - 180 kph-16.4 s
0 - 200 kph-20.9 s


probabil a6 sedan pana la 80km/h sau chiar 100km/h este la fel cu m550d multumita tractiunii superioare cu tot cu caii lipsa, insa de la 100 la 200 ar pierde ceva din cauza ca lipsind caii putere, tractiunea integrala superioara la audi, nu poate sa isi puna amprenta la peste 100km/h.

pe bani pun pariu ca A6 sedan 3.0tdi-313 cp poate cam asa:

0 - 40 kph-1.3 s
0 - 80 kph-3.5 s
0 - 100 kph-5.0 s
0 - 180 kph-16.0 s
0 - 200 kph-20.0 s

astept primele teste.

dupa cum anterior s-a vazut, la cai putere similari, A6 pe circuit ii da lui seria 5 aproximativ 2 secunde(pe circuitul autozeitung care este circuit de handling, 3.0tfsi-300 cp i-a dat lui 535i-306 cp chiar 3.2 secunde) si nu cred ca a6 3.0tdi 313 cp nu poate fi echivalent cu seria 5 m550d cu tot handicapul de putere. de fapt, ma astept ca 3.0tdi 313 cp sa fie mai rapid pe circuit ca m550d folosind regula de 3 simpla: a6 3.0tdi-245 cp i-a dat cu 535d-300cp 1.7 secunde.

sursa: fastestlaps.com care citeaza publicatiile germane, englezesti si americane de profil.

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