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Old 14-11-09, 17:50   #46
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300WBHP? tu intelegi ceea ce zici ? ps: intercOOler

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Old 14-11-09, 18:41   #47
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Sunt 300 de cai la roti, masurati cu sarcina,, wheel brake horse power, asa se exprima corect.
Ma asteptam sa fi in tema cu abrevierile de acest gen si chiar nu ma asteptam sa-mi vanezi greselile de scriere.
A fost o scapare interculer- intercooler fiind corect,... dar mai bine ti-ai remedia propile greseli la postul :
https://forum.4tuning.ro/492-anunturi...ml#post2504203
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Old 14-11-09, 19:24   #48
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1. Horsepower.

2.Effective (True, wheel) hp
Effective horsepower (EHP), True horsepower (THP) or wheel horsepower (whp) is the power converted to useful work. In the case of a road vehicle this is the power actually turned into forward motion as measured on a chassis dynamometer. Power available at the road is generally 10% to 20% less than the engine's bhp rating due to coastdown losses, most of which are due to the vehicle's rubber tires rather than true transmission losses. Front-wheel drive cars (provided a transverse engine layout is used) suffer slightly lower coastdown losses due to the absence of the beveled crown and pinion gears used to change the drive direction in the back axle of a RWD car.[14]

For railway locomotives the terms drawbar horsepower or equivalent drawbar horsepower (EDHP) refer to the power available to haul a train. This is synonymous with the Effective horsepower.[15] This figure takes into account the horsepower needed to move the locomotive, which is not available for hauling the train. The rail horsepower is the power at the wheels of a locomotive, directly comparable to the wheel horsepower of a road vehicle.

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Old 14-11-09, 19:32   #49
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Stiu ca esti fan Honda, posesor de Honda, ai tunat masina sio poate ca adresa asta iti mai deschide putin orizonturile:
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5652
Sa inteleg ca este o rusine sa nu fi vorbitor avansat de limba engleza?
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Old 14-11-09, 19:44   #50
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nu este nici o rusine doamne fereste, cat traiesti inveti, dar nu vad ce are de a face un topic in care un user cu 11 posturi mentioneaza de wbhp si original posterul intreaba cum poate obtine o putere iar toata lumea care da reply inclusiv tuneri folosesc whp, nu vad legatura scuze... si sincer nu am nevoie sa imi deschida cineva orizonturile, mi le deschid singur seara faina
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Old 14-11-09, 19:47   #51
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Multumesc pentru intelegere!
Numai bine!
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Old 14-11-09, 19:47   #52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SEBASTIAN View Post
Stiu ca esti fan Honda, posesor de Honda, ai tunat masina sio poate ca adresa asta iti mai deschide putin orizonturile:
http://www.k20a.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5652
Sa inteleg ca este o rusine sa nu fi vorbitor avansat de limba engleza?
Nu te supara dar tu ai citit threadul? Ca din cate se vede foarte clar acolo, primul post are o greseala de imensa (WBHP) si daca ai fii citit mai mult de primul post ai fii observat ca restul posturilor contin strict WHP, nici pe departe WBHP, cuvant care nu are nici un sens. Nu te supara pe mine dar cand cineva iti face o observatie, documenteaza-te si apoi risca-te la un reply.

EDIT: Nu este o rusine sa nu stii limba engleza dar este o rusine foarte mare sa ai o semnatura ca si a ta si sa folosesti termene inventate stand pe toaleta. BHP este puterea motorului din care se mai pierde 10-20% prin piesele care sunt puse in miscare de motor (ex. cutia de viteze) iar WHP este puterea efectiva a masini la roata din care se mai pierde doar prin lipsa de aderenta a cauciucurilor.

PS: incearca wikipedia, face minuni
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Old 14-11-09, 19:55   #53
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Multumesc si tie dar esti departe de adevar.
HP e cal putere, B apare de la brake, frna, sarcina cum vrei sa definesti.
Puterea de poate masura inertial sau cu franre, in functie de asta se aplica B, iar daca masori la roti se aplica W este exterem de simplu.
Pe standul nostru poti masura fara sarcina sau cu sarcina in functie de asta apare whp sau wbhp e simplu si toti cei din domeniu daca au stand cu franare folosesc asta.
Te rog sa-l certi si pe asta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tPa9iGJ7Lc sau pe astia: http://www.enquirium.com/Rotrex-Make...028-page2.aspx

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Old 14-11-09, 20:24   #54
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kitul turbo potriveste pe majoritatea masinilor sa inteleg.. eu am o corsa B. galeria de evacuare se potriveste ? ca miam tot cautat kit turbo dar am gasit numai la peste 3500 euro.
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Old 14-11-09, 20:33   #55
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Sunt mai multe kituri.
Nu este nimic destinat Opel dar cred ca se poate adapta destul de facil, marea problema fiind galeria de evacuare care trebuie ajustata.
Oricum pretul este mic comparativ cu alte kituri de acest gen.
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Brake horsepower is the measure of an engine's horsepower without the loss in power caused by the gearbox, alternator, differential, water pump, and other auxiliary components such as power steering pump, muffled exhaust system, etc. Brake refers to a device which was used to load an engine and hold it at a desired RPM. During testing, the output torque and rotational speed were measured to determine the brake horsepower. Horsepower was originally measured and calculated by use of the indicator (a James Watt invention of the late 18th century), and later by means of a De Prony brake connected to the engine's output shaft. More recently, an engine dynamometer is used instead of a De Prony brake. The output delivered to the driving wheels is less than that obtainable at the engine's crankshaft.

In general:

Nominal is derived from the size of the engine and the piston speed and is only accurate at a pressure of 48 kPa (7 psi).
Indicated or gross horsepower (theoretical capability of the engine)
minus frictional losses within the engine (bearing drag, rod and crankshaft windage losses, oil film drag, etc.)
Brake / net / crankshaft horsepower (power delivered directly to and measured at the engine's crankshaft) minus frictional losses in the transmission (bearings, gears, oil drag, windage, etc.)
Shaft horsepower (power delivered to and measured at the output shaft of the transmission, when present in the system) minus frictional losses in the universal joint/s, differential, wheel bearings, tire and chain, (if present)
Effective, True (thp) or commonly referred to as wheel horsepower (whp)

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Old 15-11-09, 18:34   #57
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horsepower
din pacatre nu este complet este o explicatie in mare si fara amanunte, dar nu credeam ca faci o fixatie pe tema asta.
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Old 15-11-09, 18:37   #58
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Da chiar nu aveti ce face cu wbhp..whp etc etc???? Chiar va credeti asa de interesanti incat sa stau sa va citesc rahaturile aici?
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Old 16-11-09, 14:59   #59
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pentru BMW motorul M54 de 2,5 poti aduce supercharger cu tot ce trebuie?
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Sigur ca se gaseste si pretul este aproape identic 1400-1500 euro.
Continutul suna cam asa:
- T3/T4 Turbocharger ( wastegate extern)
- Godspeed Type-M intercooler (20.5x6x2.75)
- Kit tevi aluminiu + furtunue siliconice + coliere
- Galerie de evacuare inox
- Blow OFF Valve BOV
- Regulator presiune benzina, Boost controller
- Kit furtune ulei
- Turbo Timer,Oil Catch Can, ventilator
- Accesorii, garnituri, reductii, etc
Este pentru e30 si e34, modelele in 6 cilindri.

Kiturile sunt destul de complete avand nevoie doar de mici ajustari.
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