10-02-08, 15:30
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Re: Carburantu'...dureros de ...cit?
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Originally Posted by BogdanNZ
La noi stagneaza de cateva luni bune la $NZ1.69/litru de '91 ~ 80-85 Eurocenti/litru, iar motorina la $NZ1.20/litru ~ 60 Eurocenti/litru
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Let's all go to NZ !!!!
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11-02-08, 02:30
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#212
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Re: Carburantu'...dureros de ...cit?
de ce sa mergi in in NZ, cand aici in canada e 67 euro-centi litrul de benzina, si la ei 80-85 nici nu vreu sa ma gandesc la americanii care dau cam 50 eurocenti pe litru taranii
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11-02-08, 02:39
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Re: Carburantu'...dureros de ...cit?
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Originally Posted by CJ-01-WOB
Let's all go to NZ !!!!
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Mi-ai furat vorba...u bollix
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13-02-08, 14:53
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Re: Carburantu'...dureros de ...cit?
1.10 USD = 2.74 RON/litru pentru 91 octane (echivalent RON 95), ar suna foarte bine daca eu as pune 95 vreodata, dar Leonul n-a vazut mai putin de 98 de cand l-am luat
Din ce aflam din presa electronica, se pare ca "baietii destepti" din OPEC planuiesc o reducere a productiei in martie ca sa impiedice caderea preturilor, odata cu reducerea cererii. Iar acum 2 zile, cand pretul petrolului era in jur de 88 USD/baril, un Gigi Becali latino, pe nume Chavez, s-a gasit sa ameninte cu o oprire a exporturilor catre SUA pe motive de "aparare in razboiul economic care se poarta"... si petrolul a urcat iar la 92. A se vedea cu ceva timp in urma articolul pe care l-am postat despre tarile petroliere...
~Nautilus
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13-02-08, 21:42
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Re: Carburantu'...dureros de ...cit?
aici oricum creste pretu vara ca chipurile e "sezonul de conducere", si chipurile consumam mult mai multa benzina decat in miezu iernii cand e frig cu saptamanile... cred ca astia folosesc ce scuza merge ca sa ne convinga ca trebuie sa platim atat de mult
dar $1.10 nu e rau de tot!
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15-02-08, 08:29
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Re: Carburantu'...dureros de ...cit?
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Originally Posted by CJ-01-WOB
Let's all go to NZ !!!!
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Si pe deasupra s-a mai ieftinit benzina cu 4 centi saptamana asta
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20-02-08, 09:26
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Re: Carburantu'...dureros de ...cit?
Ieri au reusit sa depaseasca recordul cu un cent, la 100.10 USD/baril, pe baza amenintarilor lui Chavez, dar azi a cazut 2-3 USD.
Dupa un an de frecusuri reciproce intre producatori, speculanti si consumatori, povestea cu epuizarea rapida a rezervelor arata din ce in ce mai mult a gogoasa - speculantii agita apele, ca sa vanda cu 97-100 USD un baril de petrol a carui producere a costat intre 10 si 30 USD
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20-02-08, 18:59
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Re: Carburantu'...dureros de ...cit?
ARAL - Berlin, Germania, Euro (20.02.2008 )
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20-02-08, 19:03
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Re: Carburantu'...dureros de ...cit?
si yo care am crezut ca numaiin IRl ii scumpa benzina
Cu siguranta am sa evit germania la vara
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20-02-08, 21:18
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Re: Carburantu'...dureros de ...cit?
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Originally Posted by yulasinio
si yo care am crezut ca numaiin IRl ii scumpa benzina
Cu siguranta am sa evit germania la vara
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lasa ca poate dintr-un miracol...se ieftindeste carburantu'
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21-02-08, 23:39
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Re: Carburantu'...dureros de ...cit?
Petrolul incepe sa coboare usor: 96.24-96.29 USD/baril la Brent, 98.08-98.5 pe piata americana, dolarul pica iar (1.4816 USD=1 EUR)
Magarii din Petrom au umflat iar pretul cu 9 bani pe litru, dupa cum se vede:
http://www.petrom.com/portal/01/petr...NvcnBvcmF0ZQ!!
OMV Carrera 100 e 4.39 RON sau 1.2 EUR/litru... si am impresia ca hotzomanii ridica pretul numai fiindca leul a scazut fata de euro (accizarea carburantilor se face in euro/tona)
Comentarii asupra situatiei de pe piata petrolului:
``There comes a point where fundamentals can no longer be ignored,'' said Michael Fitzpatrick, vice president for energy risk management at MF Global Ltd. in New York. ``You can't justify $100 oil when inventories are up six weeks, demand is weak and the economy is slowing.''
Speculatorii nu s-au lasat:
- Crude oil prices will decline by as much as $15 a barrel in the second quarter, and will touch $100 per barrel in the second half of the year, billionaire hedge- fund manager T. Boone Pickens told financial news network CNBC.
``Oil is going to back off here in the second quarter,'' Pickens said in an interview on CNBC. ``It'll be back above $100 in the second half.''
He said natural-gas prices were ``unusually high'' now, and will retreat after a current spell of cold weather in the U.S.
He told CNBC that he was short on both natural gas and oil. He didn't provide any more detail on his short positions in both commodities. A short position is a bet that prices will decline.
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Feb. 21 (Bloomberg) -- Crude oil prices of $100 may look ``cheap'' within five years if OPEC production fails to keep pace with global demand growth, according to Alfa Bank.
``We may hit peak oil in the course of the next three, four or five years, in which case $100 oil will look somewhat quaint,'' Alfa Bank's Moscow-based Head of Research Ronald Smith said in an interview with Bloomberg television.
Peak oil is the theory that global crude production is set to decline as new discoveries fail to make up for falling output from older oilfields.
Se remarca faptul ca ori de cate ori pretul a incercat sa revina la normal, la o valoare data de jocul cererii si ofertei, "cineva" a turnat ...petrol pe foc
Exista interese majore ca piata sa nu o ia in jos, s-au investit sume imense in petrol odata cu caderea dolarului iar sursele neconventionale au nevoie de preturi artificial umflate pentru a fi competitive.
Cred ca nu ne putem astepta la o cadere de preturi ca intre 1998-2001, indiferent ce se intampla cu rezervele, sansa noastra e sa muncim si sa producem cat mai mult ca sa avem bani de benzina. Nu degeaba s-a spus in timpul "varfului" preturilor de anul trecut ca in tarile dezvoltate bugetul unui automobilist obisnuit a fost foarte putin afectat
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23-02-08, 09:54
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Re: Carburantu'...dureros de ...cit?
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Originally Posted by Nautilus
Cred ca nu ne putem astepta la o cadere de preturi ca intre 1998-2001, indiferent ce se intampla cu rezervele, sansa noastra e sa muncim si sa producem cat mai mult ca sa avem bani de benzina. Nu degeaba s-a spus in timpul "varfului" preturilor de anul trecut ca in tarile dezvoltate bugetul unui automobilist obisnuit a fost foarte putin afectat
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inmajoritatea tarilor europene pretul este echilibrat egal . diferenta o face nivelul de trai si castigul care intra in buzunarul omului care munceste
asa ca nu ne putem astepta la o scadere a carburantilor in Ro sau in alte tari
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24-02-08, 11:01
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Re: Carburantu'...dureros de ...cit?
La o scadere ne putem astepta, ca in prima parte a lui 2007, dar nu la o "cadere" a preturilor. Adica petrolul va scadea la 80 USD sau va urca la 100, dar sa cada la 10-25 USD/baril ca in 1998-2001, asta nu mai cred
~Nautilus
PS sa va reamintesc ca 70% din pretul unui litru de carburant sunt taxele?...
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27-02-08, 08:51
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Re: Carburantu'...dureros de ...cit?
Doua recorduri atinse azi, petrolul de pe piata americana la 101,43 USD/baril si dolarul cade la 1,5047 USD=1 EUR
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27-02-08, 11:56
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Re: Carburantu'...dureros de ...cit?
UPDATE:
Petrolul pe piata americana 100.88-101.93 USD/baril, Brent-ul 100.11-100.24 USD/baril. Cu putin timp in urma s-a stabilit un nou record, 102.08 USD/baril
``The surge in oil futures is a result of investors moving money away from financial markets and into commodities,'' said Victor Shum, senior principal at Purvin & Gertz Inc. in Singapore. ``Concerns over inflation have superseded fears of a U.S. recession and commodities now seem to be the best hedge against inflation.''
Crude oil for April delivery rose as much as $1.20, or 1.2 percent, to $102.08 a barrel in electronic trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange. The contract traded at $101.90 at 9:12 a.m. in London.
The dollar weakened to $1.5055 a euro, the lowest since the European single currency was introduced in 1999. The dollar has declined against all of the world's 16 biggest currencies in the past 12 months apart from the Korean won and South African rand.
~Nautilus
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