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24-03-09, 18:57
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Re: Focus ST vs. Astra OPC
Hai ca m-ai facut curios...cat catareste motorul de pe ST. Pe net n-am gasit.
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24-03-09, 20:27
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Re: Focus ST vs. Astra OPC
era interesant de vazut distributia de mase pe punti... macar cat la suta...
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24-03-09, 20:48
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Re: Focus ST vs. Astra OPC
Focus St -Weight distribution 62.8 / 37.2....1317 kg
VW GTI ed30- Weight distribution 63 / 37.....1332 kg
Leon Cupra -Weight distribution 63.0 / 37.0...1420 kg
Astra OPC -Weight distribution 63.3 / 36.7.....1358
Megane R26- Weight distribution 63.6 / 36.4....1375 kg
Am luat greutatea variantelor in 3 usi.
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24-03-09, 22:06
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Re: Focus ST vs. Astra OPC
In cazul asta STul sta mai bine .... si cu un motor mai mare.
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24-03-09, 22:20
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Re: Focus ST vs. Astra OPC
La o medie de 1346 kg,intre ST si R26 de ex...rezulta ca R26 are cu peste 25 kg mai mare greutatea pe puntea fata.
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24-03-09, 22:34
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Re: Focus ST vs. Astra OPC
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In cazul asta STul sta mai bine .... si cu un motor mai mare.
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Din cifrele alea rezulta ca STul sta mai bine la manevrabilitate.
Dar la plecare de pe loc nu sta mai bine R26 ,avand greutate mai mare pe puntea fata?
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24-03-09, 22:49
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Re: Focus ST vs. Astra OPC
Eu m-am referit strict la distributia maselor, nu in cazul unui scenariu.
Nu stiu cat de mult influenteaza aceasta diferenta (per total intre masinile de mai sus), ea nefiind atat de mare.
STul conform celor care testeaza pentru diferite reviste, showuri TV etc, se pare a avea cea mai buna manevrabilitate din aceasta gama.
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24-03-09, 23:22
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Re: Focus ST vs. Astra OPC
ST este cea mai usoara ,cu toate ca are 2,5l.
Sunt curios cat catareste motorul de 2,5l de pe ST.
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25-03-09, 07:06
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Re: Focus ST vs. Astra OPC
ssst, de unde ai datele?
un GTI normal, cu 2 usi, scaune scoica (adica usoare), si DSG are cantarit 1450kg...
oricum stiam ca megane sta mai bine ca ST la manevrabilitate...
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25-03-09, 09:40
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Re: Focus ST vs. Astra OPC
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Din cifrele alea rezulta ca STul sta mai bine la manevrabilitate.
Dar la plecare de pe loc nu sta mai bine R26 ,avand greutate mai mare pe puntea fata?
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in majoritatea testelor de circiut r26 a iesit castigator
iar plecarea de pe loc este de departe cea mai buna ptr ca are lsd
poate ai sa simti pe pielea ta daca ne intalnim la legale 
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25-03-09, 13:49
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Re: Focus ST vs. Astra OPC
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ssst, de unde ai datele?
un GTI normal, cu 2 usi, scaune scoica (adica usoare), si DSG are cantarit 1450kg...
oricum stiam ca megane sta mai bine ca ST la manevrabilitate...
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25-03-09, 14:06
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Re: Focus ST vs. Astra OPC
deci acolo zice de GTI normal ca are 1303 kg...ceea ce mi se pare enorm de putin, pt ca repet un GTi in 2 usi cu scaune scoica si DSG (hai poate ala sa catareasca mai mult, dar scaunele scoica sunt usoare) a fost cantarit la 1450 kg. si 150 kg..inseamna destul de mult.
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25-03-09, 15:47
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Da,este oarecum relativ.Cine stie cum a fost cantarit..rezervor benzina plin,5 litri de lichid intra numai in vasul pt stergatoare....vreun instinctor p-acolo,etc. Poate n-a avut nici jantele stock.
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Originally Posted by bogdan_wrc
si 150 kg..inseamna destul de mult.
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Daca luam valoarea -Power to Weight ratio 170.14 hp/tonne pt GTI ed30....150 kg in plus,inseamna cam vreo 20 cp in minus,nu?
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25-03-09, 18:52
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Re: Focus ST vs. Astra OPC
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deci acolo zice de GTI normal ca are 1303 kg...ceea ce mi se pare enorm de putin, pt ca repet un GTi in 2 usi cu scaune scoica si DSG (hai poate ala sa catareasca mai mult, dar scaunele scoica sunt usoare) a fost cantarit la 1450 kg. si 150 kg..inseamna destul de mult.
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Adica cat actualul Focus RS.
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26-03-09, 07:15
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Re: Focus ST vs. Astra OPC
ssst, cu jantele stock pe 18", masina era 99% stock, decat ceva elecotrnica schimbata...si a scos pe cantar electronic 1450 kg...
si lichidele si jumate de rezervor sunt incluse in greutatea de pe site...normal.
(ps: soferul are ~50 de kg ) deci nici aia nu e scuza..)
unlord...sunt curios daca RSul avea 4x4 cat cantarea...
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