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View Poll Results: Care este preferatul tau?
Porsche Cayenne Turbo S 242 55.25%
Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG 196 44.75%
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Old 25-10-06, 20:46   #1
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Default SUV big boys: Porsche Cayenne Turbo S vs. Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG

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Old 25-10-06, 21:05   #2
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Porsche Cayenne Turbo S
Engine
Engine type Otto, Front longitudinal
Number of cylinders 8, V
Engine capacity 4511 cm3
Number of valves 32 DOHC
Fuel Petrol, Injection by cylinder
Supercharging Turbo + Intercooler
Bore 93.0 mm
Stroke 83.0 mm
Compression ratio 9.5
Max Power 383 kW (ECE) 5500 rpm
Max torque 720 Nm (rpm) 2750-3750 rpm

Transmission & Drive
Drive all-wheel drive
GearBox 6 Auto
Steering type Electric power

Brakes & Tyres
Wheels 8Jx18 - 9Jx20
Front tyres 275/40R20
Rear tyres 275/40R20
Front brakes Ventillated disc
Rear brakes Ventillated disc

Curb weight 2355 kg
Max. weight 3080 kg
Trunk 540 l - 1770 l
Fuel tank 100 liter

Performance
Top speed 270 km/h
Acceleration 0-100 km/h 5.2 s
Consumption
In the city 21.9 l/100 km
Out of city 11.9 l/100 km
Average consumption 15.7 l/100 km (EU)



Mercedes-Benz ML63 AMG
Engine
Engine type Otto, Front longitudinal
Number of cylinders 8, V
Engine capacity 6208 cm3
Number of valves 32 DOHC
Fuel Petrol, Injection by cylinder
Supercharging None
Bore 102.2 mm
Stroke 94.6 mm
Compression ratio 11.3
Max Power 375 kW (ECE) 6800 rpm
Max torque 630 Nm (rpm) 5200 rpm

Transmission & Drive
Drive all-wheel drive
GearBox 7 Auto
Steering type Hydraulic power

Brakes & Tyres
Wheels 9.5Jx19
Front tyres 295/45R19
Rear tyres 295/45R19
Front brakes Ventillated disc
Rear brakes Ventillated disc

Curb weight 2310 kg
Max. weight 2880 kg
Trunk 551 l - 2050 l
Max. payload 570 kg
Fuel tank 95+13 liter

Performance
Top speed 250 (governed) km/h
Acceleration 0-100 km/h 5.0 s
Consumption
Average consumption 16.2 l/100 km (EU)
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Old 25-10-06, 21:19   #3
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aleg Porsche Cayenne Turbo S pentru ca imi place mai mult designul exterior si interior
din ce am vazut in filmuletz Cayenne are un comportamnet mai bun atat offroad cat si onroad
o singura chestie m-ar face sa ma gandesc la ML
pretul mai mic si performantele asemanatoare :P
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Old 25-10-06, 21:20   #4
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inafara de faptu' ca e PORSCHE nu prea ma incanta acest SUV..o fi avand mai multe plusuri ca ML-ul dar cel din urma mi se pare ca design mai reusit ! daca ar fi sa vreau o masina pt mine as alege ML daca vreasa ma arate lumea cu degetu " uite are porsche" as alege porsche !
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Old 25-10-06, 21:27   #5
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nu e prea grea alegerea pt mine..AMG-ul pt ca e mult mai frumos decat porschele, asta ramane criteriul decisiv pt k ambele au pret si performante similare
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Old 25-10-06, 21:31   #6
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cayenne!e mult mai exclusivist si imi place mai mult designul!e totusi in porsche asa ca fuge de rupe pamantul!cu un cayenne TURBO faci de ras o multime de asa-zise "sportive"
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Old 25-10-06, 22:23   #7
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daca luxul nu conteaza si off-roadul conteaza putin - Chevrolet Trailblazer SS + modificari

daca luxul conteaza putin, off-roadul f putin - Jeep Grand Cherokee SRT-8 + modificari

daca luxul conteaza, off-roadul conteaza, performantele generale conteaza - Caddilac Escalade + modificari (ceva mai putine ca la celelalte 2 de mai sus)

Daca luxul conteaza mult, off-roadul conteaza - ML63AMG + f putin modificari

Daca luxul conteaza, off-roadul conteaza mult si performantele pe circuit conteaza mult - Cayenne Turbo S

my choice - 1 dintre primele 3 (depinzand pt ce iau masina), preturile la AMG si Turbo S mi se par mult prea mari in comparatie
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Old 25-10-06, 22:31   #8
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Sa fie ML-ul pentru mine
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Old 25-10-06, 23:12   #9
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aleg AMG, mult mai frumos si e si mai ,,proaspat'' decat Porscheul
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Old 26-10-06, 02:47   #10
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wow, cel mai bun poll pe care l-am vazut aici in ultima vreme. congrats!
nu stiu ce sa aleg, amandoua ma innebunesc, am admirat ambele modele pe viu, am auzit ambele modele, sunt extraordinar de impresionante. daca ma voi decide ma voi intoarce cu un raspuns.
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Old 26-10-06, 12:26   #11
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platforma de touareg si motor de porsche...ce iti mai poti dori?cand spui porsche spui multe
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Old 27-10-06, 16:44   #12
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Daca ar lua cineva oricare din cele doua motoare si le-ar conecta la o pompa care sa sufle aer prin cea mai mare sirena de vapor din lume ar fi o risipa de tehnologie si materiale mai mica decat motarea lor pe camioanele astea.

De banii de ML63,un Patrol pentru offroad si un un C55 in rest sunt o combinatie ideala.De banii de Cayenne,acelasi Patrol si un 911 Carrera S.In ambele cazuri,ai o masina capabila in offroad si una rapida,nu una singura care nu e in stare de nimic.
Evident,ce am scris mai sus se bazeaza pe logica,ceva ce potentialii cumparatori ai acestor masini nu au niciodata.Cel mai bun inlocuitor pentru ei este un Hyndai Coupe 2.0 cu spinnere cromate si neoane dedesubt,un lant de aur de 5 kg la gat,dinti cu diamante si o operatie de marire a penisului.Combinatia de mai sus costa mai putin,si are acelasi efect:distrage atentia de la faptul ca proprietarul e un idiot care are nevoie de obiecte scumpe si inutile ca sa distraga atentia de la acest fapt.
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Old 27-10-06, 17:00   #13
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cred ca ai uitat un aspect despre genul asta de oamenii
sunt de acord cu Patrol si un 911 Carrera S
nu poti compara confotul dintr-un Patrol cu cel din Cayenne sau ML
nici despre Carrera nu poti spune ca este o masian foarte confortabil si de drum lung
si chiar daca ar fii confortabila atunci nu poti merge cu ea offroad
vrei sa merg acum offroad si te sui in patrol... dar nu ai confort si nu iti convine
ai bani=vrei confort / offroad / performanta -Atunci zici "Range Rover Sport"
ma scuzati am vrut sa zic Porsche Cayenne Turbo S
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Old 03-11-06, 15:58   #14
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Sincer cred k ML. am vazut cum se coporta 350 cdi si nu numai atat dar mai e borba si de traditie si experienta.
iata si alta parere : http://www.autoconsulting.ro/compare...d1=175&id2=276
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Old 03-11-06, 21:21   #15
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porsche normal..am mers cu ambele masini....porschele este mult mai agresiv...nu este nici o diferenta intre ml 500 amg paket..prea mica diferenta...are o forma..cam urat ml ul..nu este asa sport k aspect
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