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adrian78bmw 05-02-18 18:27

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adrian78bmw 10-02-18 21:41

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adrian78bmw 15-02-18 19:42

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UNLORD 21-02-18 18:24

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adrian78bmw 24-02-18 18:22

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UNLORD 27-02-18 10:37

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Probabil cel mai rapid SUV diesel din clasa medie (388 hp / 770 Nm):
BMW ALPINA XD3 http://x3.xbimmers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1470450

UNLORD 27-02-18 13:58

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Posibil viitorul A6, nu e rau deloc: https://www.motor1.com/news/234316/2019-audi-a6-leaked

specialist 27-02-18 14:13

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fake exhaust ma enerveaza grav de tot la o masina.
si Mercedes face asta

UNLORD 27-02-18 17:36

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Originally Posted by specialist (Post 5872935)
fake exhaust ma enerveaza grav de tot la o masina.
si Mercedes face asta

Welcome to the club! :D Ar mai fi (dupa parerea mea) si lipsa anumitor butoane esentiale de pe consola centrala, mai noi inlocuite de touchscreenuri. Si cu toata haptica lor, deocamdata nu au cum sa le inlocuiasca la utilitate. Pe langa faptul ca le umpli de amprente, te mai fac si neatent la drum, pt ca timpul petrecut sa gasesti anumite functii este semnificativ mai mare. Eu vreau sa ma uit la drum si sa simt pe ce buton am pus mana sau apas, nu sa caut in 15 meniuri functia de incalzire in scaun. :)

adrian78bmw 27-02-18 18:17

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Plus cand e soarele puternic devine deranjabil pe monitoarele alea lucioase

specialist 27-02-18 23:04

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da, touch screenurile, nici pe alea nu le suport. si porsche vad ca merge in aceeasi directie desi ei au pastrat cu butoane setarea temperaturii, a ventilatorului, volumului radio si un buton de option.
oricat de bune ar fi acele touch screen, tot nu se pot compara cu un buton mecanic

adrian78bmw 28-02-18 18:00

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UNLORD 02-03-18 09:04

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Am incercat sa inteleg si sa imi imaginez cum functioneaza sistemul asta hibridizat al motor cu 6 cil. in linie de la Mercedes CLS 53 AMG. O sa mai citesc odata, ca nu mi-a reusit din prima. :)

specialist 02-03-18 13:32

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pai nu e identic cu audi si integrat in toate masinile cu tehnologie de 48V? ca si pe mine ma confuzeaza asta.
doar ca Mercedes sunt mai bagabonti si precizeaza si cati kw scoate motorasul ala electric dand falsa impresie ca acei kw se adauga celor de la motorul termic?
e un motor electric care ajuta la turatii reduse pt a elimina lagul motorului termic decuplandu-se complet la 2500 de ture.

una peste alta, bmw chiar au ramas ultimii la motorizari. cea mai veche, cea mai primitiva si cea mai putin potenta gama de motoare.

Mercedes, noul otto in 6 cilindri:

New, intelligent turbocharging, e.g. with an electric auxiliary compressor (eZV), as well as an Integrated Starter-Alternator (ISG) provide the guarantee of excellent drivability with no turbo lag. ISG is responsible for hybrid functions, such as boost or energy recovery, while allowing fuel savings that were previously reserved for high-voltage hybrid technology.
The 48 V electrical system serves not only high power consumers, such as the water pump and air-conditioning compressor, but also the Integrated Starter-Alternator (ISG), which also supplies energy to the battery by means of highly efficient energy recovery. The ISG dispenses with the need for a belt drive for these components.
mai multe aici: http://media.daimler.com/marsMediaSi...l?oid=14315791


iar audi este explicat graphic in poza de mai jos. la fel "belt drive starter generator"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFj7TkhOi3Q

adrian78bmw 02-03-18 13:54

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Si unde e avantajul daca L6 consuma mai mult ca V8ul de 4,4l de la BMW?E acelasi bullshit ca si downsizingul


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