Re: BMW M3 vs. Mercedes C 63 AMG BEST BUY 70000 euro !!
 

The Mercedes Benz logo consists of a simple depiction of a three-pointed star that represents ‘its domination of the land, the sea, and the air’.

Re: BMW M3 vs. Mercedes C 63 AMG BEST BUY 70000 euro !!
 

Este tot simbolul unei eleici de avion.

Re: BMW M3 vs. Mercedes C 63 AMG BEST BUY 70000 euro !!
 

in ecuatia m3 vs amg nu este o departajare clara, dar daca intra in ecuatie brabus nu mai au grad de comparatie!

stiati ca motorul vechiului m3 suporta fara sa fie desfacut kit de 750cp?

Pot sa va spun ca azi un CL63AMG a fost invins de un m3 e92.

Re: BMW M3 vs. Mercedes C 63 AMG BEST BUY 70000 euro !!
 

uau!!!cum ?unde?cand?sunt martori? bravo tie!!

Re: BMW M3 vs. Mercedes C 63 AMG BEST BUY 70000 euro !!
 

photofinish??

Re: BMW M3 vs. Mercedes C 63 AMG BEST BUY 70000 euro !!
 

ce e asa de uau ? diferenta de greutate intre cele doua masini este f mare , 1600-700 pt M3 si 2100 kg pt CL pana si un urs a facut cl-ul ..

Re: BMW M3 vs. Mercedes C 63 AMG BEST BUY 70000 euro !!
 

dupa ultimul auto sport, c63 reuseste chiar 14 secunde de la 0 la 200, M3 ramanind cu peste 16 secunde clar in urma,...
dar in slalom, se intoare victorios, 68 la 66 !!
oricum pe hockenheim au scos timp egal, anume 1:15.2 !
:rolleyes2

Re: BMW M3 vs. Mercedes C 63 AMG BEST BUY 70000 euro !!
 

si-a luat un prieten c63amg si masina chiar este foarte misto ! m-a impresionat in mod placut :) dar nu mi-a dat senzatia de asa monstru ( 0 - 200 in 14sec !!! ) oricum masina este senzationala !

Maine e bine sa il aduci la start?

<table style="width: 352px; height: 1771px;" class="insettxt" border="1" cellpadding="3" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="hdr"><td>
</td><td>2008 BMW M3 </td><td>2008 Lexus IS F </td><td>2008 Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG </td></tr><tr class="hdr1"><td colspan="5">POWERTRAIN/CHASSIS </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Drivetrain layout </td><td>Front-engine, RWD </td><td>Front-engine, RWD </td><td>Front-engine, RWD </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Engine type </td><td>90 V-8 aluminum block/heads </td><td>90 V-8 aluminum block/heads </td><td>90 V-8 aluminum block/heads </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Valvetrain </td><td>DOHC, 4 valves/cyl </td><td>DOHC, 4 valves/cyl </td><td>DOHC, 4 valves/cyl </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Displacement </td><td>244.0 cu in/3999cc </td><td>303.2 cu in/4969 cc </td><td>378.9 cu in / 6208 cc </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Compression ratio </td><td>12.0:1 </td><td>11.8:1 </td><td>11.3:1 </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Power (SAE net) </td><td>414 hp @ 8300 rpm </td><td>416 hp @ 6600 rpm </td><td>451 hp @ 6800 rpm </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Torque (SAE net) </td><td>295 lb-ft @ 3900 rpm </td><td>371 lb-ft @ 5200 rpm </td><td>443 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Redline </td><td>8300 rpm </td><td>6800 rpm </td><td>7200 rpm </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Weight to power </td><td>8.8 lb/hp </td><td>9.2 lb/hp </td><td>8.9 lb/hp </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Transmission </td><td>6-speed manual </td><td>8-speed automatic </td><td>7-speed automatic </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Axle/final-drive ratios </td><td>3.85:1/3.36:1 </td><td>2.94:1/2.01:1 </td><td>2.85:1/2.08:1 </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Suspension, front; rear </td><td>Struts, coil springs, anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, anti-roll bar </td><td>Control arms, coil springs, anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, anti-roll bar </td><td>Multilink, coil springs, anti-roll bar; multilink, coil springs, anti-roll bar </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Steering ratio </td><td>12.5:1 </td><td>13.6:1 </td><td>13.5:1 </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Turns lock-to-lock </td><td>2.4 </td><td>2.9 </td><td>3 </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Brakes, f;r </td><td>14.2-in vented, drilled disc; 13.8-in vented disc, ABS </td><td>14.2-in vented disc; 13.6-in vented disc, ABS </td><td>14.2-in vented, drilled disc; 13.0-in vented, drilled disc, ABS </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Wheels, f;r </td><td>8.5 x 18, 9x5 x 18 in, cast aluminum </td><td>8.0 x 19; 9.0x19 in, forged aluminum </td><td>8.0x 18; 9.0x18 in, forged aluminum </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Tires, f;r </td><td>245/35R19 93Y; 265/35R19 98Y Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 </td><td>225/40R19, 255/35R19 Michelin Pilot Sport PS2 </td><td>235/40ZR18 91Y, 255/35R18 95Y Pirelli PZero Rosso </td></tr><tr class="hdr1"><td colspan="5">DIMENSIONS </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Wheelbase </td><td>108.7 in </td><td>107.5 in </td><td>108.9 in </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Track, f/r </td><td>60.6/60.6 in </td><td>61.4/59.6 in </td><td>61.7/60.0 in </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Length x width x height </td><td>180.4 x 71.5 x 57.0 in </td><td>183.5 x 71.5 x 55.7 in </td><td>186.0 x 70.7 x 56.6 in </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Turning circle </td><td>36.1 ft </td><td>33.5 ft </td><td>38.1 ft </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Curb weight </td><td>3652 lb </td><td>3817 lb </td><td>4004 lb </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Weight dist., f/r </td><td>50/50% </td><td>54/46% </td><td>53/47% </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Seating capacity </td><td>5 </td><td>5 </td><td>5 </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Headroom, f/r </td><td>38.5/37.5 in </td><td>37.2/36.7 in </td><td>37.1/36.9 in </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Legroom, f/r </td><td>41.5/34.6 in </td><td>43.9/30.6 in </td><td>41.7/33.4 in </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Shoulder room, f/r </td><td>55.4/55.1 in </td><td>54.4/52.7 in </td><td>54.7/55.1 in </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Cargo volume </td><td>12.0 cu ft </td><td>13.3 cu ft </td><td>12.4 cu ft </td></tr><tr class="hdr1"><td colspan="5">TEST DATA </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td colspan="5">Acceleration to mph </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>0-30 </td><td>1.7 sec </td><td>1.8 sec </td><td>1.6 sec </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>0-40 </td><td>2.4 </td><td>2.5 </td><td>2.3 </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>0-50 </td><td>3.3 </td><td>3.4 </td><td>3.2 </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>0-60 </td><td>4.3 </td><td>4.3 </td><td>4.1 </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>0-70 </td><td>5.5 </td><td>5.5 </td><td>5.3 </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>0-80 </td><td>7 </td><td>6.8 </td><td>6.6 </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>0-90 </td><td>8.5 </td><td>8.2 </td><td>8.1 </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>0-100 </td><td>10.1 </td><td>10 </td><td>9.8 </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Passing, 45-65 mph </td><td>1.9 </td><td>2 </td><td>2 </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Quarter mile </td><td>12.7 sec @ 111.3 mph </td><td>12.7 sec @ 113.4 mph </td><td>12.5 sec @ 113.5 mph </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Braking, 60-0 mph </td><td>105 ft </td><td>108 ft </td><td>103 ft </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Braking, 100-0 mph </td><td>309 ft </td><td>309 ft </td><td>304 ft </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Lateral acceleration </td><td>0.97 g (avg) </td><td>0.95 g (avg) </td><td>0.95 g (avg) </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>MT figure eight </td><td>24.8 sec @ 0.76 g (avg) </td><td>25.1 sec @ 0.77 g (avg) </td><td>24.9 sec @ 0.78 g (avg) </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>2.7-mi Road course lap </td><td>2 min, 34.2 sec </td><td>2 min, 38.6 sec </td><td>2 min, 39.0 sec </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Top-gear revs @ 60 mph </td><td>2600 rpm </td><td>1650 rpm </td><td>1700 rpm </td></tr><tr class="hdr1"><td colspan="5">CONSUMER INFO </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Base price </td><td>$55,875 </td><td>$56,765 </td><td>$55,925 </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Price as tested </td><td>$63,625 </td><td>$62,940 </td><td>$63,930 </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Stability/traction control </td><td>Yes/yes </td><td>Yes/yes </td><td>Yes/yes </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Airbags </td><td>Dual front, front side, f/r curtain </td><td>Dual front, front side, front knee, f/r curtain </td><td>Dual front, front side, f/r curtain </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Basic warranty </td><td>4 yrs/50,000 miles </td><td>4 yrs/50,000 miles </td><td>4 yrs/50,000 miles </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Powertrain warranty </td><td>4 yrs/50,000 miles </td><td>6 yrs/70,000 miles </td><td>4 yrs/50,000 miles </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>Roadside assistance </td><td>4 yrs/unlimited miles </td><td>4 yrs/unlimited miles </td><td>Unlimited </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Fuel capacity </td><td>16.6 gal </td><td>16.9 gal </td><td>19.5 gal </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>EPA city/hwy econ </td><td>14/20 mpg (est) </td><td>16/23 mpg </td><td>12/19 mpg </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>CO2 emissions </td><td>1.20 lb/mile (est) </td><td>1.05 lb/mile </td><td>1.35 lb/mile </td></tr><tr class="hdr2"><td>MT fuel economy </td><td>19.1 mpg </td><td>17.9 mpg </td><td>17.5 mpg </td></tr><tr class="hdr3"><td>Recommended fuel </td><td>Unleaded premium </td><td>Unleaded premium </td><td>Unleaded premium </td></tr></tbody></table>

Re: BMW M3 vs. Mercedes C 63 AMG BEST BUY 70000 euro !!
 

Nice info, sunt curios daca performance package-ul (suspensie mai buna, frane mai mari, lsd) si jante pe 19 cu anvelope mai late ar ajuta amg-ul sa mai scada cateva secunde din 2:39..

De unde sunt luate datele ?

Re: BMW M3 vs. Mercedes C 63 AMG BEST BUY 70000 euro !!
 

Oricare masina se poate imbunatatii. Sigur ar mai scadea si mergedesul.

Re: BMW M3 vs. Mercedes C 63 AMG BEST BUY 70000 euro !!
 

Mda pacat ca e al naibii de inconfortabila ! Am citit in ultimul numar din topgear ca la cea mai mica denivelare risti sa dai cu capul de tavan, asa de rigide sunt supensiile. Si practic toti care au testat masina spun acest lucru. Sincer nu-mi dau seama cum au putut cei de la Mercedes/AMG s-o dea in bara in asa hal, tocmai la capitolul la care stateau cel mai bine. Macar daca-i puneau suspensii ajustabile si tot era ceva. Culmea e ca initial le avea dar au fost scoase pentru a nu umfla prea mult pretul. Nu inteleg totusi de ce nu sunt disponible optional !
Acestea fiind spuse trebuie sa fii cu adevarat sado-masochist sa te plimbi cu o astfel de masina pe drumurile de la noi ! M3-ul e o alegere mult mai inspirata din acest punct de vedere, chiar si cu suspensiile standard (non EDC).

Re: BMW M3 vs. Mercedes C 63 AMG BEST BUY 70000 euro !!
 

Nu este adevarat ! este o masina foarte ok !

Re: BMW M3 vs. Mercedes C 63 AMG BEST BUY 70000 euro !!
 

O fi in Monaco :D
Acum serios, tie chiar ti s-a parut confortabila masina aia ? Inseamna ca toti jurnalistii care au testat-o si care s-au plans de suspensiile mult prea rigide sunt niste idioti.