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Old 18-09-08, 22:21   #1
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Versus intre 7 very hot hatchbacks
1. Focus ST - 2.5 Turbo - 226cp
2. Astra OPC - 2.0 Turbo - 241cp
3. Golf Gti - 2.0 Gti - 200cp
4. Octavia RS - 2.0 TFSI - 200cp
5. Megane RS - 2.0 16v Turbo - 224cp
6. Mazda 3 MPS - 2.3 Turbo - 260cp
7. Alfa Romeo 147 - 3.2 V6 24v - 250cp
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Old 18-09-08, 23:45   #2
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Din cate stiu Octavia nu e deloc hatchback.Subaru N 14 unde e?
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Old 19-09-08, 03:17   #3
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si unde este Civic TypeR, unde este S3, unde este BMW 135 I, unde este Leon Cupra si unde e Dacia Sandero? )))) ?????
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Old 19-09-08, 08:10   #4
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Si aia nu e Mazda 6, e MAzda 3 MPS.
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Old 19-09-08, 09:35   #5
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Sa va raspund pe rand. Octavia e hatchback chiar daca e mai mare. S3, Type-R sunt prea scumpe am vrut sa pastrez o marja de maxim 25.000 de euro vb de preturi de SH ale masinilor. Leonul sincer nu ma pasioneaza deloc de aceea l-am omis recunosc la fel cum recunosc faptul ca trebuia sa bag si Sandero aici. Sper k s-a lamurit si acum se vor face posturile pe ce am scris eu nu aiurea de ce nu am pus una alta. Multumesc
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Old 19-09-08, 20:35   #6
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Cel mai rapid din cele de aici e Megane RS (fast on tracks cum s-ar spune).OPC, iarasi e un hatchback capabil din cate spun datele si palmaresul.Ca potential al motorului si tren de rulare (sasiu, suspensii) as zice ST.Probabil ca daca s-ar adauga Subaru N14-le, topicul ar cam fi inchis, dar Leon nu ar fi trebuit sa lipseasca.Despre Alfa 147 nu stiu prea multe sa ma pronunt.Din ce se poate vedea din timpii pe circuite, ordinea de podium ar fi (de la 1 la 3), Megane RS, Mazda aproape una de alta OPC si ST (care sunt si cele mai rapide pe circuitul gigant Nordschleife) , dar sunt mai multi factori care contribuie la alegerea unei masini.Ca alegere subiectiva....ST.
In fine...ar trebui facut si poll-ul.

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Old 19-09-08, 20:44   #7
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o alegere grea..dar eu aleg detinatoarea recordului de pe nurburgring>OPC-ul!
2>ST-ul si 3 RS-ul
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Old 19-09-08, 23:14   #8
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A. Civic TypeR este 26 000 euro noua, sha de 1 an si >20 mii de km e cam 20 deci se incadreaza, nu stiu de unde ai scos tu ca e scumpa.

B.carutasule - confunzi Megane RS cu Megane RS F1 (si nu prea este acelasi lucru) Megane RS nu este "fast on tracks " cum s-ar spune.

C. @criss_cars - degeaba aduci masini din Germania si ai experienta de 7 ani ca habar nu ai ce este un hatchback - "Hatchback is a term designating an automobile design, containing a passenger cabin with an integrated cargo space, accessed from behind the vehicle by a single, top-hinged tailgate or large flip-up window. The vehicle commonly has two rows of seats, with the rear seat able to fold down to increase cargo space."

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1. Focus ST - 2.5 Turbo - 226cp - o masina foarte buna atat pe circuit cat si in afara lui, cu un design exterior si interior frumos , un tren de rulare foarte bun, fiabila, usor de tunat

2. Astra OPC - 2.0 Turbo - 241cp - Interesanta, performanta, design exclusivist dar nu plaut de toti, pretabila tunning, interior cu aspect ieftin, fiabilitate inca nu stim

3. Golf Gti - 2.0 Gti - 200cp - o sportiva frumoasa, interior ingrijit, ceva mai comuna, ceva mai rafinata, ceva mai potrivita pentru oras, nu atrage atentia in mod deosebit, usor tunabila

4. Octavia RS - 2.0 TFSI - 200cp - care nu este un hatchback, dimensiune superioara, performante foarte slabe, design interpretabil

5. Megane RS - 2.0 16v Turbo - 224cp - Design exclusivist (interpretabil ca frumusete), performante bune, feeling mediocru, fiabilitate indoielnica, piese foarte scumpe

6. Mazda 3 MPS - 2.3 Turbo - 260cp - Motor foarte puternic si usor tunabil, design elegant si agresiv in acelasi timp, stabilitate perfectibila, superioara varianta revizuita cu diferential blocabil.

7. Alfa Romeo 147 - 3.2 V6 24v - 250cp - motor puternic, greu tunabil, design deosebit, stabilitate medie, fiabilitate slaba, pret de achizitie (noua) f. mare, piese cu pret exorbitant

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1. Mazda 3 MPS
2. Focus ST
3. Golf Gti
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Old 19-09-08, 23:42   #9
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votez pt golf gti. am mers cu el si zici k e racheta, despre celelalte stiu doar date tehnice da' de gti m-am indragostit
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Old 20-09-08, 01:07   #10
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B.carutasule - confunzi Megane RS cu Megane RS F1 (si nu prea este acelasi lucru) Megane RS nu este "fast on tracks " cum s-ar spune.
Da, l-am confundat....scuze.
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Old 20-09-08, 12:52   #11
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m-am prapadit de ras....skoda octavia rs hatchback =)))))
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Old 20-09-08, 15:05   #12
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Sa va raspund pe rand. Octavia e hatchback chiar daca e mai mare. S3, Type-R sunt prea scumpe am vrut sa pastrez o marja de maxim 25.000 de euro vb de preturi de SH ale masinilor. Leonul sincer nu ma pasioneaza deloc de aceea l-am omis recunosc la fel cum recunosc faptul ca trebuia sa bag si Sandero aici. Sper k s-a lamurit si acum se vor face posturile pe ce am scris eu nu aiurea de ce nu am pus una alta. Multumesc

Octavia NU este hatchback. Este sedan.
Si daca ar fi sa aleg... Grande Punto Abarth. Numai asa, de-al dracu "ca-s ciumeg"
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Old 20-09-08, 22:25   #13
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m-am prapadit de ras....skoda octavia rs hatchback =)))))
Nu vreau sa supar pe nimeni da nu va mai prapaditi de ras k octavia e hatchback nu are portbagajul separat precum megande sedan de exemplu am si gasit o poza sa va demonstrez pacat k e foarte mica. Iar in ceea ce priveste userul GTR cred k detine 2 reviste are cunostinte vaste in domeniul auto este redactor sef la toate revistele din Romania dupa cat de bine cunoaste masinile.
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Old 20-09-08, 22:31   #14
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Revin cu o poza mai mare poate afla lumea ca Octavia chiar e hatchback nu de alta da nu vreau sa se imbolnaveasca sau sa moara cineva de ras.
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Old 21-09-08, 00:16   #15
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pai bine, dar asa si octavia tour o putem considera hatchback, exact aceeasi situatie.Mondeo, limuzina (putin impropriu spus) in 5 usi atunci si el hatchback, nu are portbagajul separat, sau? Usa se deschide exact la fel.Nemtii ii spun fließheck, dar nu e taman acelasi lucru.
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