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10-06-07, 15:17
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Techart CARRERA GT VS Gemballa MIRAGE GT
poate cele mai frumoase masini din lume........
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10-06-07, 15:20
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Re: Techart CARRERA GT VS Gemballa MIRAGE GT
inca ceva poze....
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10-06-07, 15:23
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Re: Techart CARRERA GT VS Gemballa MIRAGE GT
Techart-engine Aluminum, 68 Degree, Water Cooled V10 w/Dry Sump Lubrication
position Mid Longitudinal
aspiration Natural
valvetrain DOHC 4 Valves per Cyl w/VarioCam
fuel feed Sequential Multi-Point Fuel Injection
displacement 5733 cc / 349.8 cu in
bore 98 mm / 3.86 in
stroke 76 mm / 2.99 in
compression 12.0:1
power 473.5 kw / 635 bhp @ 8000 rpm
hp per litre 106.75 bhp per litre
bhp/weight 443.48 bhp per weight
torque 589.78 nm / 435 ft lbs @ 5750 rpm
redline 8400
drive wheels RWD w/ASR 5.7, LSD
body / frame Carbon Fibre Body over Carbon Fiber Reinforced Plasitc Frame
front brakes Internally Vented & Cross Drilled Ceramic Composite Discs w/6-Piston Calipers, ABS
f brake size 380 mm / 15.0 in
rear brakes Internally Vented & Cross Drilled Ceramic Composite Discs w/6-Piston Calipers, ABS
r brake size 380 mm / 15.0 in
front wheels F 48.3 x 24.1 cm / 19 x 9.5 in
rear wheels R 50.8 x 31.8 cm / 20 x 12.5 in
front tire size 265/35ZR19 Michelin Pilot Sport 2
rear tire size 335/30ZR20 Michelin Pilot Sport 2
steering Rack & Pinion w/Power Steering
f suspension Double Wishbones w/Inboard Springs & Dampers
r suspension Double Wishbones w/Inboard Springs & Dampers
weight 1380 kg / 3042 lbs
wheelbase 2730 mm / 107.5 in
front track 1612 mm / 63.5 in
rear track 1587 mm / 62.5 in
length 4613 mm / 181.6 in
width 1920 mm / 75.6 in
height 1166 mm / 45.9 in
transmission 6-Speed Manual w/Two-Plate Ceramic Dry Clutch
gear ratios 3.20:1, 1.87:1, 1.36:1, 1.07:1, 0.90:1, 0.75:1
final drive 4.44:1
top speed 329.9 kph / 205.0 mph
0 - 60 mph 3.8 seconds
0 - 100 mph 6.9 seconds
0 - 1/4 mile 11.4 seconds
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10-06-07, 15:24
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Re: Techart CARRERA GT VS Gemballa MIRAGE GT
Gemballa-engine Modified V10 w/Low Compression Pistons
position Mid Longitudinal
aspiration Twin Turbochargers
valvetrain DOHC 4 Valves per Cyl
fuel feed Sequential Multi-Point Fuel Injection
displacement 5733 cc / 349.8 cu in
bore 98 mm / 3.86 in
stroke 76 mm / 2.99 in
power 484.7 kw / 650 bhp @ 8000 rpm
hp per litre 113.38 bhp per litre
bhp/weight 471.01 bhp per tonne
drive wheels RWD w/ASR 5.7, LSD
body / frame Carbon Fibre Body over Carbon Fiber Reinforced Plasitc Frame
front brakes Internally Vented & Cross Drilled Ceramic Composite Discs w/6-Piston Calipers, ABS
f brake size 400 mm / 15.7 in
rear brakes Internally Vented & Cross Drilled Ceramic Composite Discs w/6-Piston Calipers, ABS
r brake size 400 mm / 15.7 in
front wheels F 48.3 x 24.1 cm / 19 x 9.5 in
rear wheels R 48.3 x 31.8 cm / 19 x 12.5 in
front tire size 265/35ZR19
rear tire size 335/30ZR20
steering Rack & Pinion w/Power Steering
f suspension Double Wishbones w/Inboard Springs & Dampers
r suspension Double Wishbones w/Inboard Springs & Dampers
weight 1380 kg / 3042 lbs
front track 1612 mm / 63.5 in
rear track 1587 mm / 62.5 in
length 4613 mm / 181.6 in
width 1921 mm / 75.6 in
height 1166 mm / 45.9 in
transmission 6-Speed Race-Sourced Transaxle
gear ratios Not Available36:1
top speed 330 kph / 205.1 mph
0 - 60 mph 3.8 seconds
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10-06-07, 21:12
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Re: Techart CARRERA GT VS Gemballa MIRAGE GT
bun topic . Motoare cu modificari aproximativ identice..insa designul gemballa intrece orice inchipuire..  .. ''mi-as vinde casa , as cumpara o chestie din asta si as trai intr-un tunel''  )
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10-06-07, 21:34
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Re: Techart CARRERA GT VS Gemballa MIRAGE GT
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Originally Posted by Bemelo
bun topic . Motoare cu modificari aproximativ identice..insa designul gemballa intrece orice inchipuire..  .. ''mi-as vinde casa , as cumpara o chestie din asta si as trai intr-un tunel''  )
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La fel, cred ca este cea mai frumoasa masina
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10-06-07, 21:50
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Re: Techart CARRERA GT VS Gemballa MIRAGE GT
gemballa mirage gt negru auriu
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11-06-07, 03:02
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Re: Techart CARRERA GT VS Gemballa MIRAGE GT
Din datele pe care le-ai pus Techartul e superior din punct de vedere tehnologic.Ma refer la motorul aspirat cu came variabile care scoate aproape acelasi numar de cai ca si Gemballa care are si pistoane de compresie scazuta si doua turbine din care scoate doar cu 15 cai mai mult. Ar fi interesant de vazut cu cat e mai mare cuplul la Gemballa si cat de mare e diferenta pe 400m. Ceva imi spune ca nu e mare diferenta la timpi, iar timpii egali de 0-100km/h confirma chestia asta.
In mod sigur as alege Techartul, motivul real pt care Gemballa cu 2 turbine nu scoate simtitor mai multa putere probabil fiind unul economic (costurile de productie deveneau prea ridicate???) sau poate de marketing...
De mentionat ca prezenta turbinelor si a pistoanelor de compresie joasa preteaza Gemballa la tuning (daca cineva ar fi destul de nebun sa mai faca ceva la masina aia  )
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05-07-07, 05:27
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Re: Techart CARRERA GT VS Gemballa MIRAGE GT
Gemballa Mirage GT- Se presupune ca ar fi produsa acum si o varianta de 1000 de cai putere si 1150 Nm , deja unul dintre aceste modele apartinand afaceristului arab Ilyas Galadari.Momentan aceasta dezvoltand doar 700 din cei 1000 de cai promisi insa lucrarile la motor nu au fost finalizate masina urmand sa fie trimisa innapoi pentru finisare.(Din spusele fiului sau pe un forum....asa ca...) iar acceleratia de la 0 la 100 fiind situat in jurul valorii de 3.5 secunde cea ce imi pare stupid. De la o la 200 in 8 si o viteza maxima de 403.Din cate se pare aceste surse nu sunt exacte asa ca daca stiti altceva postati datele referitoare la ea.Tare as vrea sa vad ce poate o masina de o forta bruta asemanatoare veyronului dar cu aproximativ 800-900 de kilograme mai putin.
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06-07-07, 17:28
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Re: Techart CARRERA GT VS Gemballa MIRAGE GT
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Originally Posted by boy_wonder
gemballa mirage gt negru auriu 
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Da , e superb
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13-07-07, 09:57
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Re: Techart CARRERA GT VS Gemballa MIRAGE GT
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Tare as vrea sa vad ce poate o masina de o forta bruta asemanatoare veyronului dar cu aproximativ 800-900 de kilograme mai putin.
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Orice ar stii sa faca in plus, nu se include si viteza maxima. Inca o data ! la viteza mare, e indicat ca masina sa fie mai grea. Ideal ar fi ca masina sa aiba vreo 300 de kile cand accelereaza si vreo 3 tone cand ruleaza cu 400 km/h  ).
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18-07-07, 06:46
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Re: Techart CARRERA GT VS Gemballa MIRAGE GT
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Originally Posted by Dripci
Orice ar stii sa faca in plus, nu se include si viteza maxima. Inca o data ! la viteza mare, e indicat ca masina sa fie mai grea. Ideal ar fi ca masina sa aiba vreo 300 de kile cand accelereaza si vreo 3 tone cand ruleaza cu 400 km/h  ).
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Ma refeream la overall.Adik o comparatie in ce consta timpii pe circuit pt ca acestia sunt cei mai importanti in evaluarea calitatilor sportive ale unei masini nu numai aceleratia de la 0 la 100 sau viteza maxima.
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21-07-07, 22:38
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Re: Techart CARRERA GT VS Gemballa MIRAGE GT
porche-u......:
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22-07-07, 01:49
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Re: Techart CARRERA GT VS Gemballa MIRAGE GT
oricare dintre ele va fi la fel de inutila in centru bucurestiului la ora 6 dupamasa
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22-07-07, 10:25
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Re: Techart CARRERA GT VS Gemballa MIRAGE GT
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Originally Posted by GabiByte
oricare dintre ele va fi la fel de inutila in centru bucurestiului la ora 6 dupamasa
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Mai bine zis 12h pe zi  . La noi in tara nu-ti trebuie masina peste 200cp, desi si astia sunt prea multi...
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