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View Poll Results: Care este preferata voastra ?
Bentley Brooklands 35 49.30%
Rolls-Royce Phantom Coupe 36 50.70%
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Old 03-06-09, 22:59   #16
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pai daca stai sa te gandesti e aceiasi concurenta, din cate stiu rr apartine de bmw... concurenta din germania, bmw - merc - audi.. care la randul lor au reprezentante si din aceasta clasa in concurenta rolls royce - maybach - bentley..
cu o mica corectura e VW nu Audi
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Old 03-06-09, 23:18   #17
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dar, doar ca sunt in breasla, dar am specificat audi pentruca in germania nu vw e concurentu pentru bmw si merc
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Nu se risca nimeni sa deschida capacul ala de pe bord de la Bentley sa vada cum troneaza cd-ul de VW - Audi? Votez RR din acelasi motiv.
Aceasi prostie poti sa o zici si in cazul RR - BMW , insa nu vad ce legatura are actionariat-ul celor doua firme cu modelele prezentate aici, produse in Anglia de catre Bentley Motors respectiv Rolls Royce Motors. Din contra, RR are motoare furnizate de catre BMW, cand motorul din Bentley dateaza din 1954 (evident imbunatatit pe parcurs)

a.. si care e faza cu CLK 63 AMG ? in afara ca toate au doua usi si motor in fata, nu vad nici o legatura.
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Old 03-06-09, 23:38   #19
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Aceasi prostie poti sa o zici si in cazul RR - BMW , insa nu vad ce legatura are actionariat-ul celor doua firme cu modelele prezentate aici, produse in Anglia de catre Bentley Motors respectiv Rolls Royce Motors. Din contra, RR are motoare furnizate de catre BMW, cand motorul din Bentley dateaza din 1954 (evident imbunatatit pe parcurs)

a.. si care e faza cu CLK 63 AMG ? in afara ca toate au doua usi si motor in fata, nu vad nici o legatura.
lasa-ma sa te contrazic putin RR inca nu are motoare de la BMW e tot acelasi motor de 6.75 cmc doar imbunatatit..viitoru 200 RX va avea un motor 6.6L derivat din 6.0L de pe 760
uitate putin in istoria marcii sa vezi ca bentley a avut motorul V8 de 4,4 L BMW de 400cp Bentley Arnage Red Label
BMW had recently started supplying components for the new range of Rolls and Bentley cars, notably V8 engines for the Bentley Arnage

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Old 04-06-09, 06:19   #20
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aleg Bentley pt motorul mai puternic, performantele mai bune, interiorul splendid finisat si mult mai luxos decat cel de la RR...cat si pt design!
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Old 04-06-09, 22:09   #21
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Bentley foloseste motor de RR DAR e un motor vechi. Dupa ce au cumparat Bentley de la BMW,VW a avut dreptul de a folosi motoarele de RR-BMW doar pana in 2003 apoi "la revedere". Motorul de pe bentley e motor vechi de RR de dinainte de a-l cumpara BMW-ul, un motor pe care au dreptul de a-l folosi, un motor TURBO nu un motor NA de ultima generatie cum are RR . Daca mai pui in calcul faptul ca modelul are un design de 11 ani, motor antic, fluxul tehnologic si procesul de fabricatie au fost foarte bine puse la punct in acest timp, masina ar trebui sa coste mult mai putin. Iar ca Desing, au incercat ceva prin 2002 dar le-a iesit o struto-camila
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Bentley!

Brooklands e chiar un coupé englezesc, cu stil traditional.
RR Phantom Coupé e o camioneta cu doua usi si stil prea neo-retro!
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Bentley foloseste motor de RR DAR e un motor vechi. Dupa ce au cumparat Bentley de la BMW,VW a avut dreptul de a folosi motoarele de RR-BMW doar pana in 2003 apoi "la revedere". Motorul de pe bentley e motor vechi de RR de dinainte de a-l cumpara BMW-ul, un motor pe care au dreptul de a-l folosi, un motor TURBO nu un motor NA de ultima generatie cum are RR . Daca mai pui in calcul faptul ca modelul are un design de 11 ani, motor antic, fluxul tehnologic si procesul de fabricatie au fost foarte bine puse la punct in acest timp, masina ar trebui sa coste mult mai putin. Iar ca Desing, au incercat ceva prin 2002 dar le-a iesit o struto-camila
Bentley nu a fost nici o data sub proprietatea BMW, conexiunea cu acest brand a fost la partea de motoare cand au montat pe Bentley Azure o varianta supra-alimentata dar l-au "aruncat" in 2003 si au trecut la ceva mai serios, mai exact motorul "antic" de 1050 Nm. Ideea era ca masina este fabricata in Anglia, fara piese de vw-audi. Poate asta se intampla in cazul modelelor mai "accesibile" gen Continental GT, Flying Spur etc.
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Old 05-06-09, 17:56   #24
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VW a cumparat in 1998 Bentley-ul de la BMW pentru 430 de milioane de lire sterline. Si nu au aruncat motorul sa treaca pe ceva mai serios, doar pana in 2003 au avut permisiunea de la BMW-ul sa-si vanda masinile cu acel motor.
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VW a cumparat in 1998 Bentley-ul de la BMW pentru 430 de milioane de lire sterline. Si nu au aruncat motorul sa treaca pe ceva mai serios, doar pana in 2003 au avut permisiunea de la BMW-ul sa-si vanda masinile cu acel motor.
nu stiu unde ai auzit dar nu este asa, bentley nu a apartinut niciodata de bmw.
Inca de la inceputuri in 1931 bentley a fost achizitionata de catre rolls-royce, iar spre sfarsit din motive financiare rolls a fost vandut catre bmw iar bentley vandut catre vw..
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VW a cumparat in 1998 Bentley-ul de la BMW pentru 430 de milioane de lire sterline. Si nu au aruncat motorul sa treaca pe ceva mai serios, doar pana in 2003 au avut permisiunea de la BMW-ul sa-si vanda masinile cu acel motor.
VW a cumparat in 1998 de la Vickers RR & Bentley fiind fratiori pana atunci, an in care BMW a inceput sa furnizeze motoare pentru cele doua brand-uri. Fiind un conflict de interese, VAG a renuntat la ownership-ul RR in 2003 fiind preluat de BMW.
Revenind acum la cele din topic, dintr-un anumit punct de vedere imi place mai mult motor-ul regasit la Phantom, parca se preteaza mai mult pentru clasa asta un V12 enorm si aspirat.
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cum ca ar fi luat vag si RR nu am vazut, sursa din care am citit spune asa: anii 60 si vremurile tumultoase din punct de vedere financiar au culminat cu achizitia companiei de catre conglomeratul Vickers, care, mai tarziu, a vandut brandul Rolls-Royce companiei BMW si brandul Bentley grupului Volkswagen AG.
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Aleg RR sunt inebunit dupa designul acela masiv si interiorul este ucigator nu am nimic cu bentley dar ... imi place mai mult RR asta e
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Old 07-06-09, 18:23   #29
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BMW obtained an interest in Rolls-Royce and Bentley in the 1990s, and began supplying them with engines in 1998, specifically a V12 for the Rolls-Royce Silver Seraph and a twin-turbo 4.4 L V8 to replace the 6.75 L for the Bentley Arnage. BMW V8 engines were used exclusively in the Bentley Arnage from 1998 to 2000, and were steadily phased out from 2000 to 2002.

In 1998, Volkswagen and BMW reached an agreement. Volkswagen outbid BMW and paid £430 million to permanently have Bentley; additionally, they would have permission to produce current models of Rolls-Royce Motors until 2003, at which time BMW would retain exclusive rights to the Rolls-Royce franchise under the name Rolls-Royce Motor Cars.

BMW does not own the rights to produce any pre-2003 Rolls-Royce or Bentley engines. The current Rolls-Royce Phantom and its derivatives use a naturally-aspirated BMW V12 engine. Though it also displaces 6.75 L, it has no technical similarities with the old V8.

Under Volkswagen, the Arnage ditched the BMW engine and reintroduced the classic turbocharged 6.75 L V8. The Arnage-derived Brooklands uses the most powerful version of the engine yet. Those models and the convertible Bentley Azure remain in production alongside newer Bentleys based on the Continental GT.

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la c discutii se ajunge )
relax people ...
e vorba de gusturi si pareri la 2 modele auto
bentley pt mine! daca se poate black stealth
hai lasati cunostintele si sa ne uitam putin la spatele de bentley
aha .. relax

Sasha...de ce as alege bentley... de ce am scris de rearul sau... cum am mai scris sus!
si aici e rearul unei foste de-a mea... asta e motivul meu designul
Sper sa fie bine

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