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View Poll Results: Ce ziceti de E85?
Este super 31 60.78%
Este naspa 2 3.92%
Inca nu stiu 18 35.29%
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Old 10-03-09, 17:17   #16
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Am si eu o intrebare. Am o masina americana care merge pe e85,si daca stiti de unde il pot cumpara?
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Old 24-03-13, 15:26   #17
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parerea mea 100% DA
Eu am instalat un asemenea KIT pe masina mea Passat 3BG 1.8T in urma cu 1 an si functioneaza perfect, sunt mai mult decat multumit. Motorul nu slabeste in timp, dimpotriva, cifra octanica mai mare(105) deci putere mai mare, INSA la temperaturi mai mici, ceea ce contrar altor pareri, inseamna durata de viata mai mare pt motor. Motorul are nevoie de explozie pt energie mecanica, TEMPERATURA este din pacate un efect secundar, deci o pierdere. Ruland cu etanol, motorul se va merge mai racorit, garniturile vor tine mai mult. Da, adevarat ca are efect asupra cauciucului si tot cu ce intra in Contact (furtune etc), dar nu este nimic ingrijorator. Printre alte puncte pozitive ar mai fi acela ca etanolul curata si mentine curat toata instalatia de alimentare(din rezervor pana la injectoare), iar printre cele negative se gasteste faptul ca service-ul se face putin mai des (resp. la 10.000Km)
Un alt avantaj ce l-am simtit direct si clar e ca chiar ruland cu benzina, acest KIT E85 m-a facut sa am un consum f mic (de la 4,5/100Km in afara) si o medie de 5,9%
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Nu stiu daca ati auzit deja de E85, este un amestec 85% Ethanol (Alcool agricol) 15% benzina...

Poate inca in Romania nu se vorbeste de E85, dar ar fi o solutie!
Puna acuma Suedezi si Americani au fost singuri interesati, dar acum, Francezi si Italieni sa dau la conceput masini E85... Cel mai bun exemplu este Ferrari F430 E85 "Bio Fuel" !

Puncte pozitive a motorului E85:
• +11% putere
• Economie de puna la 40% din pret
• Se poate folosi si Benzina ( SP95-98 ) 100% si amestecuri de Ethanol sub 85%
• Este ecologic, scoate foarte putine poluante
• Se monteaza usor cutia de program pentru combustie de E85

Puncte negative:
• Uni zic ca motorul slabeste dupa cativa anii
• Nu se gaseste in toate statile de benzina
• In Europa resursele de Ethanol sunt slabe comparate cu (Brazilia)


Parerea voastra, care e?
Ati fi pregatiti, sunteti OK pentru a cumpara un KIT?

Linkuri petru detali despre Kitul E85:

Pe franceza: http://www.kit-ethanol85.com/
Pe Engleza/Germana: http://www.ethanoltechnik.de/english....asp?Codigo=16
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Old 24-03-13, 15:36   #18
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Da adevarat ca atunci cand e frig (sub +5) porneste repede, normal dar se opreste repede. Repornesti de vreo 2-3 ori si gata, va merge perfect. Eu de ex iarna folosesc benzina. Alta varianta sa preincazlzesti motorul Electric sau cel mai bine cu Webasto (care e ideal cu sau fara etanol)
Da inmoaie cauciucul putin, insa in 2 zile sau 2ani tot la fel are efect asupra cauciucului, in 2 ani nu va face mai mult decat a facut in 2zile, ajunge la "saturatie" dupa care nu se mai intampla nimic.
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Cel mai mare minus e ca la motoarele europene care nu erau concepute petnru E85 trebue alt soft, care da mai mult carburant in motor respectiv micsoreaza avansul. Asta din motruvul ca E85 are amestecul ideal la ~7:1 iar compresie-octan 106.
Despre ce zic multi ca dezolva cauciucul, din pacate da, eu am patit la cauciucul care era in canistra, nu s-a dezolvat, numai ca era mai mare in diamtru si era mult mai flexibil decat inainte, si asta in 2 zile.
Despre putere...e mai slab cu siguranta masina, numai cele turbo sunt mai puternice unde ECU-ul face corectie in funtie de knock sensor. Pana acum numai masinile japoneze eu ECU autoadaptabul, sau ceva de gen. Asta stiu ce dupa ce era pui in suzuki motorul a facut un fel de test, sau ceva de gen si dupa 2-3 de mers incemuse sa mearga bine, la fel si la honda.

Per total...e ieftin si are multi octani, deci pentru masinile de tuning e bun, mai ales daca luam in calcul ca etanolul arde mai incet decat benzina, iar cand asta ajunce in motor dezolvarea atrage mai multa caldura, inseamna ca motoarele care inainte au avut 500 de cai si EGT ~800 grade dupa E85 si corectie la ecu o sa aiba tot 500 de cai dar EGT ~750 sau mai putin, ceeace este o scadere foarte mare si lungeste mult viata unui motor. Tinand cont ca cel mai mare inamic a unui motor e caldura.

Cel mai mare minus este cand pornesti masina...porneste greu, mai ales iarna.
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Old 24-03-13, 15:50   #19
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Cum am scris si mai sus, eu am montat acum mai bine de 1 an KIT E85 pe Passatul meu B5.5 si merge perfect. Am consum f mic si pe benzina cand merg.
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Frumos Navigatorul, imi place foarte mult!
Zici ca n-ai avut nici o problema cu E85? Sa stiu si eu inainte de a lua Saab-ul
Aici poza cum va arata... de pe configurator
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Old 24-03-13, 15:57   #20
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Nu cred ca este, in toate drumurile ce le-am facut de ~ 70% din Ro NU am vazut E85, nici chiar pe tot drumul din Suedia pana in Romania. Nici in Germania nu am vazut E85 ( unde am intalnit doar E10). Doar in Scandinavia pt cumpara E85. Un alt avantaj este ca nu scoate absolut nici un fum si noxe, decat din cauza celor 15% benzina, din pacate nu am vazut E100 (100% ethanol)
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Dar in tara a aparut undeva E85?
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