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Old 28-12-09, 22:54   #1
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Default Sa presupunem ca am om sa investeasca intr-o pista.. haideti sa-mi dati detalii

Am discutat cu un om de afaceri si i-am dat o idee despre o eventuala pista. L-a incantat ideea, dar m-a pus sa adun informatii, cum ar fii : spatiul necesar, adica lungimea si latimea intregului teren. Ce portiune trebuie asfaltata, etc. Ma intereseaza caracteristicile unei piste bune. Cam care ar fii taxa de participant, taxa pentru spectatori, niste poze sa vedem cum ar fii asezat tot pe acolo. Multumesc, astept raspunsuri.
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Old 28-12-09, 23:07   #2
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Va rog sa fie pus undeva sa se vada, pentru ca este ceva serios si sigur.
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Old 29-12-09, 00:25   #3
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pai pista ar trebui sa fie de vreo 12m zici eu 6 pe o parte 6 pe alta ca latime si 1000m lungime+tribunele....cineva zicea pe forum ca 1km de asfalt costa 300.000euro(6m latime 1000m lungime)....pt 12m cat are pista e mai mult....pt poze si restu de proiect nu ma bag sper ca iti sunt de folos detaliile de mai sus si sper ca nu am gresit cu nimic
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Old 29-12-09, 00:42   #4
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Multumesc, astept mai multe informatii. As dorii sa aflu mai multe si despre semafoare, cronometrare. Vreau sa fie ceva modern, ca sa fie totul ok.
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Old 29-12-09, 00:44   #5
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in primul rand ai nevoi de teren cu o lungime de circa 1000 m ( pe care sa faci 2 benzi + una de intoarcere )( 402m zona acceleratie + inca pe atat cel putin zona de franare + 20-30 m zona de start care sa poata includa si zona de asistenta medicala obligatorie la evenimete de acest gen, +100-150 m zona de degajare si parcare a masinilor) latimea terenului de minim 30 m din care 15-20m destimati zonei asfaltate si 10 macar spatiu pentru public(eventual tribune , aici depinde cat de mare vrei sa fie investitia, daca nu oricum trebuie un gard despartitor intre zona de rulare si public) pe langa aceasta investitie obligatorie in infrastructura iti trebuie si in logistica ( aparatura de masurare profesionala cu fotocelule si semafor)trebuie luat in calcul si un contract cu o firma de paza , cam astea ar fi in mare detaliile pot fi dezvoltate insa nu are rost acum ,depinde cat e dispus careva sa investeasca, referitor la partea de taxe , investitia nu se va amortiza imediat, insa prin introducerea unei taxe de participare (in medie intre 50 si 100 ron ron pentru concurenti cam asa sa practicat la cursele din 2009, acum bine aceste sume pot varia insa ar trebui comparate si cu preturile oferite la vecinii nostri unguri in astfel de intreceri unde gasim taxe accesibile) si a unei taxe de spectatori + creerea de spatii publicitare (ar aduce venituri suplimentare )arunca un ochi si pe aici dar exclude certurile care au fost scrisese pe acolo, pentru cronometrare http://www.tagheuer-timing.com/

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Old 29-12-09, 00:47   #6
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Si bineinteles un loc pentru drift, pentru ca a inceput sa ia amploare si la noi in ro.
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Old 29-12-09, 00:48   #7
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+parcarea de asta am uitat...ai nevoie de parcare pentru celelalte masini care nu participa sau care sunt in asteptare...cel puti prin parcare se pot amenaja standuri cu oferte de la firme(acestea o sa plateasca taxe proprietarului pistei)....dupa ai nevoie de mediatizare(radio+tv)...si incet incet poti vedea daca merge

prima data incepi cu linutele ca la liniute se poate merge si cu tractiune fata si spate si integrala...vin mai multi...apoi cu cat atenuezi mai mult cheltuielile dezvolti langa un teren asfaltat pt drift
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Cred ca cea mai tare publicitate este aici , pe forum. E de ajuns sa afle cativa
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Old 29-12-09, 00:52   #9
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gandeste-te prima data la zona care ar trebui sa fie centrala pentru ca de exemplu eu nu ma pornesc sa vin de la cluj de fiecare data la liniute....si mai sunt si altii....ar trebui undeva brasov,sibiu,ceva sa fie in centru sa fie accesibila pentru toti...si sa fie si cu weekenduri speciale....in fiecare weekend sa fie eveniment de liniute(sponsorizat de cineva aici iara trebuie sponsori)si in rest sa poata fi inchiriata de cei care doresc sa-si testeze masinile pe 402m
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Sponsori pentru ce?
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Old 29-12-09, 00:56   #11
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Ma intereseaza caracteristicile unei piste bune.


7. PERMANENT DRAG STRIP CONCEPTION
The dimensions and slope of the drag strip are the critical
measurements and are dependent on the classes of competition
for which the drag strip is intended.
The considerations in this Article are intended to be of assistance
in the basic conception of drag strip projects for submission to the
FIA in view of future licensing. In those countries where the law
demands it, those responsible for a drag strip must ensure that
the prescriptions laid down by the public authorities are complied
with and must obtain their offi cial approval.
7.1 Width:
The width of the track and shutdown area should not be less than
50 feet (15.2 m). New facilities should not be less than 60 feet
(18.5 m). Should the drag strip widen or narrow, the transition
must be made as gradually as possible.
7.2 Length of the competition area:
7.2.1 If the drag strip is intended for FIA Championships, the length
of the track should be 1/4 mile between the start line and the
fi nish line, plus at least 30 feet (9.1 m) before the start line.
For 1/8 mile events the length of the track should be 1/8 mile
between the start line and the fi nish line, plus at least 30 feet
(9.1 m) before the start line. Final determination of braking area
to be determined by inspector on track licensing.
7.2.2 - Braking areas:
These areas, and in particular the fi nal braking distances, will be subjected to the requirements laid down by the FIA inspector, and
their design features will be noted on the track license.
7.3 Longitudinal profi le:
The maximum rise or fall of any track should be 1 %.
7.4 Transversal incline:
The transversal incline between the two edges of the track
and shutdown area, or between the center-line and the edge
(camber), shall not exceed 2 %.
7.5 Surface:
Track: smooth fl at surface of recognized roadbase construction
hot mix, concrete, or approved sealed bitumen surface.
Shoulders and irregular joints are not permitted. All edges must
be satisfactorily blended.
Primary Braking Area: must be of a sealed surface similar to that
used for the Track.
Emergency Braking: sealed surface, grass, sand or gravel, of
an even texture.
Tolerances: the aim should be a maximum of 6 mm (1/4 inch)
in any 33 feet (10 m) distance, for the Track and the Primary
Braking Area.
7.6 Strip Markings:
The track boundaries and the centerline must be clearly marked
with a white or yellow line at least 4" (100 mm) wide. The speed
traps should be marked with diagonal lines, before and on the
fi nish line.
7.7 Return Road / Turnoffs:
The Return Road should be a minimum of 10 feet (3 meters)
in width, with suitable access to Pit and Staging Lane areas. It
should be sealed so that all vehicles may use it at all times.
Exit points from the Braking Area should be sealed, and shaped
to accommodate the turning circles of the longest vehicles. The
recommended width at the track edge is 30 feet (9.2 meters)
blending into the Return Road Width.
It is recommended that a minimum of two exits be placed
between a point approximately 1,000 feet (300 m) beyond the
fi nish line and the end of the braking area. Access for emergency
vehicles is of the utmost importance.

Sursa: http://argent.fia.com/web/fia-public.nsf/CBF1550829484D46C12572FB005560E0/$FILE/Drag_Strip_Approval_a.pdf
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Old 29-12-09, 00:57   #12
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daca faci eveniment de liniute e concurs deci sunt premii deci trebuie fonduri pentru premiile alea...dar cu cateva bannere afisate langa tribune eu cred ca gasesti sponsori..
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http://www.tagheuer-timing.com/sport...ex.lbl?lang=en
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Mai e un topic deschis aici... https://forum.4tuning.ro/53-starea-cu...ml#post2728212
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Old 29-12-09, 01:31   #15
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Am citit primele 5 pagini cuvant cu cuvant, la urma pe sarite.. Acolo n-am ce sa citesc, decat certuri Sper sa nu se intample la fel si aici!
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