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Old 03-11-08, 10:39   #1
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Question Ford Fiesta XR2i 1,8 16v

Fiesta XR2i 1,8 16v 130cp
Stie cineva ce as mai putea face la motor inafara de filtru si evacuare...unde gasesc ceva sa ii pot mari puterea?
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Old 03-11-08, 11:34   #2
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frumoasa masinuta;din cate stiu eu 1.8 16 V are 105 CP ;dar poate ma insel;poti face multe;galerie evacuare custom, renuntare catalizator, tot traseul evacuare marit, din inox, resoftare, axe came racing, usurare volanta, alte pistoane, turbo, etc. bani sa fie
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foarte frumoasa jucaria, ii o mica bestie, sa o stapanesti sanatos

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frumoasa masinuta;din cate stiu eu 1.8 16 V are 105 CP ;dar poate ma insel;poti face multe;galerie evacuare custom, renuntare catalizator, tot traseul evacuare marit, din inox, resoftare, axe came racing, usurare volanta, alte pistoane, turbo, etc. bani sa fie
zetecu de 1.8 de pe xr2i are 130 CP, difera axele cu came, clapeta de acceleratie si electronica fata de zetecu de 1.8 105 CP

cu modificarile ai o gramada de variante si pe aspirat si pe turbo, zetecu de 1.8 are un potential foarte mare. ce buget ai pentru ai creste puterea si la cati cai ai vrea sa ajungi?
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Old 03-11-08, 12:55   #4
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Foarte greu gasec piese petru modificat motoru si cel mai mult in anglia unde au niste preturi de cazi pe spate...catalizator-ul l-am scos de mult esapamentu este marit un pic in diametru si ful inox cu tobe borla si filtru de aer KN trage mult mai bn decat cu filtru si tobele stoc...plus ca i-am modificat si supensia arcuri telescoape si multe alte maruntisuri..as vrea sa gasesc pe cineva sa ma sfatuiasca exact ce ar treb sa fac mai intai...si unde pot gasi pe cine sa imi aduca componente
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in general pentru Fiesta , Ka, Puma gasesti cel mai usor piese in UK ;intr-adevar, preturile nu sunt foarte accesibile plus ca mai este si transportul destul de mult;
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Foarte greu gasec piese petru modificat motoru si cel mai mult in anglia unde au niste preturi de cazi pe spate...catalizator-ul l-am scos de mult esapamentu este marit un pic in diametru si ful inox cu tobe borla si filtru de aer KN trage mult mai bn decat cu filtru si tobele stoc...plus ca i-am modificat si supensia arcuri telescoape si multe alte maruntisuri..as vrea sa gasesc pe cineva sa ma sfatuiasca exact ce ar treb sa fac mai intai...si unde pot gasi pe cine sa imi aduca componente
la ce putere vrei sa ajungi? 150, 200, mai mult? ca sa stiu ce sa iti recomand...
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foarte frumoasa jucaria, ii o mica bestie, sa o stapanesti sanatos
Ce iti mai face tie jucaria, ca nu ai mai postat la ea?

On Topic: Simpatica masinutza ta. Daca zici ca nu mai ai ce face la esapament, incearca un chiptuning si niste axe cu came sport (Kent Cams sau Piper).Nu ar trebui sa se numeasca RS1800 ?

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Old 04-11-08, 01:03   #8
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1800 130ps tuning

Once you have the 130ps engine spec, the next steps in tuning are to improve induction and exhaust flow, and look at a remap and higher lift cams. However, many tuners agree that the maximum power you can achieve on the 1800 Zetec inlet manifold and injectors is 145-155bhp, and you will be pushing the engine and management to its limits at this point. Aftermarket normally-aspirated cam kits cost in the region of £450-£500 and will be unsuitable to turbocharged applications.

A free-flowed exhaust and removal of the catalytic converter, as well as the fitting of the Mass AirFlow sensor (MAF) from a 2.0L engine (which has a larger internal diameter than the 1800 MAF) will give good mid-range gains, and a custom-mapped management chip such as a Unichip will allow the best gains from these modifications.

Cat removal

The catalytic converter, fitted to every Ford from 1992 onwards, has it's good and bad points. Once up to operating temperature in the high hundreds of degrees C, the honeycomb surface of the cat, which is coated in precious metals, acts to change the molecular structure of the gases passing over it from undesirable gases and unburnt fuel, into more environmentally friendly stuff, as well as reducing noise levels.

The downside of having a cat is the increase in exhaust system backpressure, which tends to help increase bottom end torque at the expense of bhp at the top of the rev-range. Removal tends to free up the engine, making it rev more freely, and an increase in peak power is often found. However, although the emissions regulations don't actually require you to have a cat, if your car is made after 1992 your emissions will be expected to be at or below a certain level, which is almost impossible to achieve without a catalytic converter fitted.

Companies such as Magnex Exhausts produce cat-removal pipes, although if you're half-decent at welding you should be able to make up your own 18" length of pipe to remove your cat. If you can, get hold of a dead cat and downpipe assembly for your car from the same model and keep your good cat for MOT time. It's worth pointing out at this point that you can get a serious kick in the pods from the Vehicle Inspectorate if they stop you for an emissions check at the side of the road and you fail - you have been warned )

One last point: lambda probes. This is a small self-heating narrow-band exhaust gas oxygen sensor sitting, usually, just in front of the cat. It tells the ECU how rich your engine is and adjusts fuelling to suit. This is a vital part of the car's management for almost every single management system. We have heard of cars that have had an aftermarket exhaust fitted and the "specialist" making up the exhaust claimed that the lambda probe wasn't important, and cut it out of the loom. The car now gets about 100 miles to a tank (it should be getting 250) and is undriveable when it is cold.

If you remove your cat and straight away the car misbehaves, especially when cold, you should check and if necessary replace the lambda probe. Note that VAG recommend these are changed every 60k miles on their cars, so if your car is well over this mileage you may want to enquire at your local motor factor's about the price of a replacement.

Getting Serious

If you're serious about getting more power from your engine than the methods above can offer, then you should be considering either forced induction, which on a budget of around £3,000-£5,000 can give you in the region of 250-280bhp, or normally aspirated tuning with a budget of £1,000 and upwards through the use of twin-carburettors or throttle bodies can give well over 200bhp with a good set-up.

Carbs

Before proceeding to even research into fitting dual twin choke carburettors to a Zetec, it's important to be aware of the MOT emission regulations in force. With the exeption of a few very early Zetecs, the emission levels of a carb'd Zetec will be too high to pass the revised 1992 regulations, thus causing the car to fail it's MOT. There are a number of companies who sell carb kits for Zetecs, but these are intended to be used in kit and competition cars, where emissions are less strict.

Having said that, if the car itself was produced before 1992, eg a G plate 1.6s, it's perfectly legal to run carbs on a Zetec engine. Only post 1992 cars are affected. The conversion itself replaces the EFi inlet manifold and injection system and provides power gains of approximately 30bhp on a 2.0, and gives the engine note a purposeful throaty burble. The downsides are an increase in fuel consumption and poor bottom end driveability, especially in cold weather.

Throttle Bodies

Throttle bodies work on the same principal as carbs, with an air intake for each cylinder, but are controlled by the ECU and fuel is supplied through electronic injectors as with the Zetec's conventional EFi system. Power gains are similar to carbs, but without the rough running and high emission levels when properly set-up.

Throttle bodies will require an aftermarket ECU, such as Omex, Gems or DTA, and a mapping session to set them up.

Engine strengthening

This setup can be taken even further. Forged pistons to increase engine compression (11.5:1 is common for road-going cars and track cars on race fuel can be taken much higher) result in better combustion but the use of a high octane fuel will be necessary. A steel crank and rods with uprated bolts allow higher maximum RPM's and greater power outputs - Ford's super 1600 rally Puma engine revs beyond 9,000rpm and produces over 200bhp (normally aspirated!). For more information, a reputable engine tuning company will be able to offer you advice on what route to take.
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Old 04-11-08, 01:39   #9
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mi-ar placea un 200 cred ca s-ar simti frumos...multumesc pntru indicatii
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Old 04-11-08, 20:46   #10
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Salut,am si eu un Escort 1.6 16v zetec ,inca sunt in faza de documentare ,vreau sa-mi aleg ce vreau turbo sau aspirat in raport cu performante-pret-fiabilitate...iti recomand pagina www.zetecinside.com www.powerengineering.co.uk www.headtune.co.uk .
PS:l-am luat doar pt performante o sa deschid si un topic imediat ce ma apuc de el ...ca din opel nu aveam ce face 1.7 dti ,sa ne ti la curent si la cati mai multi hp..
http://www.pipercams.co.uk/NewPiperW...CamFrames.html

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