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Cosmin255 24-03-06 21:58

Ford Focus ST vs. VW Golf GTI
 
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Focus ST 3 €19,495

Focus ST 3 adds electric 10-way adjustable Recaro front seats, full leather trim and a Sony six-CD autochanger to Focus ST 2 specification.

Power for performance

Unique in this segment, the ST's turbocharged five-cylinder engine delivers an impressive 225PS at 6,100rpm. Equipped with a slick operating six-speed manual gearbox it is capable of a top speed of 150mph, and needs only 6.5sec to accelerate from zero to 60mph. With such performance potential, the Focus ST positions itself firmly in the league of high performance sports cars.

Jost Capito, Director Ford TeamRS, believes that the Focus ST is the purest expression yet of the 'ST' brand. 'We have spared no effort in making this the most exciting Ford Focus road car yet,' said Capito. 'It is a perfect car for drivers who love that unique performance experience, but do not want to sacrifice high standards of refinement, comfort and practicality.'

With its carefully enhanced sporting image, the ST is worthy of Ford's affordable performance heritage. The ST states its intentions clearly on low-profile 225/40 R18 tyres mounted on 18x8in cast aluminium wheels. Inside and out, Focus ST is a well-crafted, refined performer - a highly capable sports car for everyday use.

Focus ST Chassis

The already outstanding Focus chassis, which offers class-leading handling and road holding, has been substantially modified and uprated for the ST. Additional stiffness at the front has been achieved by adding an extra cross-member across between the MacPherson struts by the bulkhead.

The front springs have been stiffened by 30 per cent and the dampers recalibrated to match. The rear springs also have been stiffened by 30 per cent and the anti-roll bar diameter increased by 5 per cent. Overall ride height has been lowered by 25mm.

The brakes have been upgraded to match the performance of ST, developing the already impressive system employed on other Focus models. The 320mm diameter front ventilated discs have been fitted with large calipers and high-performance pads to provide even better initial bite, heat management and extended endurance, as befits the Focus ST's high performance potential.

Comprehensive safety features have been developed in tandem with the Focus's high performance and these include a rigid passenger safety cell, footwell reinforcement, collapsible steering column and pedals and side impact protection door beams. Additional passive safety systems are driver and passenger front and side airbags, pyrotechnic seatbelt pre-tensioners and neck injury protection system on front seats.

Developing the Focus ST look

The Focus ST signals its performance credentials with design cues that echo Ford's World Rally Championship contenders.

The visual weight of the front bumper emphasises the Focus ST lowered stance, and the aggressive inverted-trapezoid lower grille gives more graphic impact to the nose. Flanking the lower grille, fog lamp openings are trimmed in brushed aluminium.

At the rear, reversing and rear fog lamp features are given similar design treatment, while the lower bumper has been sculpted to create the appearance of a sportscar-like aerodynamic venturi from which the chrome-tipped dual sport exhausts emerge.

Focus ST interior

Focus ST's unique additional instrument cluster, incorporated in the upper fascia, creates an immediate visual impact. Turbo boost pressure, oil temperature and oil pressure are displayed by three separate gauges and provide the enthusiastic driver with key operating data.

Focus ST's black headliner and A-pillars give the interior an intimate, cockpit feel. The leather steering wheel has an increased rim section with bold thumb grips and three brushed aluminium-finished spokes. Stylish Recaro sport driver and passenger seats provide the optimal lateral support required for spirited driving.

These figure-hugging seats can be specified with colour-keyed inserts to match the exterior colour of the car. This no-cost option is available on selected colours in the Focus ST range.

VW GOLF V GTI
Engine
Type: Inline-4, Turbocharged
Displacement cu in (cc): 121 (1984)
Power bhp (kW) at RPM: 200(149) / 5100
Torque lb-ft (Nm) at RPM: 207(280) / 1800
Redline at RPM: n.a.
Brakes & Tires
Brakes F/R: ABS, vented disc/disc
Tires F-R: 225/45 R17
Driveline: Front Wheel Drive
Exterior Dimensions & Weight
Length × Width × Height in: 164.4 × 68.6 × 57.2
Weight lb (kg): n.a.
Performance
Acceleration 0-60 mph s: n.a.
Top Speed mph (km/h): 130 (210) - electronically limited
Fuel Economy EPA city/highway mpg (l/100 km): n.a.

Base Price: 2006 Volkswagen GTI - 24,550 € (last update: 2/3/2006)

Cosmin255 24-03-06 22:04

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
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Am ales Focusul pentru ca ofera mai multi caluti la un pret cu aproximativ 4.000 de euro mai mic decat Golful, bani care pot fi utilizati ulterior pentru un tuning care sa il faca si mai si:) Voi atasa mai jos niste poze cam cum arata masinile cu ceva modificari ... daca mai e nevoie:)

Eugen_TL 24-03-06 22:25

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
focus mi-as lua! pt mine 4000euro inseamna ceva mai ales tinand cont ca focusul mai da niste caluti si vorba lui obraznick de 4000il faci mai jale!
vw se stie ca e masina tzeapana sau cel putin asta da impresia,mai agresiva.... cam greu de ales .. dar raman la focus totusi

GabiByte 24-03-06 22:37

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
Focus! Cheaper, faster, more reliable

movie 24-03-06 22:40

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
Daca ar fi sa ma puna cineva sa aleg dintre astea 2 as alege GTI-ul.. dar n`as da eu banii pe niciuna!
Oricum VW-ul are un design mai aparte. mai ales la ext.. ma innebuneste.
Din punct de vedere al performantelor.. da, are cu 25cp mai putin dar asta se rezolva cu putini bani.

mercut 24-03-06 22:41

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
sunt fan si deci mi-as lua gti...nu cred ca se compara designu..si vw e dupa parerea mea cea mai buna marca la raportu pret/calitate..

teddy 24-03-06 23:54

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
Focus are super manevrabilitate pentru tractiune fata (diferential inteligent): asta alaturi de alte avantaje evidente il pune primul in lista asta.

sandumrs 25-03-06 00:14

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
Greu de ales, probabil GTi-ul.

Race 25-03-06 01:27

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
Ce-i cu preturile astea ? GTI costa cu putin peste 19.000 EURO CIP in Romania.Deci de unde diferenta de 4.000 in favoarea Focus-ului ? Chiar daca ar fi vorba de pret DDP,vreau sa vad si eu Focus ST vandut in Romania la pretul de ~16.000 EURO CIP.Focus 2.0/145 CP Titanium costa deja 16.590 EURO CIP...deci slabe sanse.

zGb 25-03-06 06:16

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
gti-ul costa 18.800 cip si nu se compara la cum arata exterior si interior cu fordul...motorul tfsi a fost super premiat este clar mai bun decat al fordului...nici nu-ti dai seama ca e turbo atat de bine e echilibrat trage de oriunde...si cu chip...ati vazut si voi ce face cata4 cu al lui a4 2.0tfsi (care e mai greu decat gti-ul ca e mai mare si are si quattro) ... focus rs a fost masina facuta jmecher de ford...in rest...

Cosmin255 25-03-06 07:31

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
Race , sursa este rsportscars.com la GTI , la Focus nu mai stiu exact de unde am luat, , de pe un site Ford oricum.

The_Mask 25-03-06 07:55

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
Singura masina de la ford care are potential si a fost intradevar reusita in ultimii ani este GT`ul. In rest masini ieftine pentru firme, care ajung pe mana soferilor de distributie...adica rupte..:D

Cosmin255 25-03-06 08:25

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
Mi se pare ca aberezi si oricum esti offtopic . Stii cat costa un Mondeo Titanium X?Vreo 30.000 cu piele cu xenon cu trapa cu de toate pe el , mie unul nu mi se pare masina ieftina pentru firma care ajunge pe mana soferilor de distributie, iti spun sincer , mi se pare doar o masina care ofera un raport calitate pret foarte bun.

mercut 25-03-06 09:06

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
da obraznick dar daca te vei urca si vei conduce un model nou de vw vei simti imediat diferenta..mult mai tare vw

Cosmin255 25-03-06 10:29

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
Pai nu am condus nici VW GOLF GTI nici FOCUS ST , dar din datele tehnice si pt aspect si pt ca sunt fan Ford aleg Focusul mercut

Cabbano 25-03-06 10:29

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
as alege ST-u pt aspect si pret

Race 25-03-06 10:49

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
GTI costa 18.882 EURO CIP in versiunea cu 3 usi,la care se mai adauga 626 EURO pentru inca doua usi.Chiar si fara,e aproape 19.000,nu 18.000.
Ma indoiesc de faptul ca GTI ar fi mai rapid in linie dreapta decat ST.
Mondea Titanium X 3.0/204 CP costa 21.715 EURO CIP.Modelul care ajunge la aproape 30.000 e Mondeo ST 226 CP (28.980 EURO CIP).Nu vad de unde diferenta asta enorma intre ele,si in plus se apropie periculos de mult de pretul unui 330i,care e mult mai bun.

Cabbano daca alegi ST pentru pret,sa-mi zici si mie cand o sa-ti cumperi tu ST la mai putin de 19.000 EURO CIP cat costa GTI-ul.

Cabbano 25-03-06 11:00

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
pai scria pe aici ca ST-ul e mai ieftin.
dar eu,probabil,nu voi avea niciodata atatia bani pt o masina:cry:

Trickz 25-03-06 11:14

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
GTist.....

UNLORD 25-03-06 15:14

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
focus st este superior la toate capitolele gti-ului (acceleratie, manevrabilitate, fiabilitate, look)! singurul lucru in minus este pretul care e cu vreo 3-4000 mai mare decat al gti-ului!

cata4 25-03-06 15:27

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
Am ales GTI-ul pt ca am vazut si stiu cum trage !
De ST nu stiu cum trage !
Ca o paralela am vazut o liniuta intre GTI si un Megane sport (nu stiu care e prescurtarea la asta) , GTI-ul a facut, Meganu avea tot 225 cp!

Eugen_TL 25-03-06 16:18

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
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Originally Posted by UNLORD
focus st este superior la toate capitolele gti-ului (acceleratie, manevrabilitate, fiabilitate, look)! singurul lucru in minus este pretul care e cu vreo 3-4000 mai mare decat al gti-ului!

lasa-ma sa te corectez! GTI-ul e mai scump!

Cosmin255 25-03-06 16:40

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
Corect , diferenta de pret este exact invers:)

mercut 25-03-06 17:56

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
obraznick pai eu cred ca esti fan ford pt ca ai avut sau ai doar ford...te-ai gandit sa incerci sa te urci si in altceva? da focusu e urat rau dupa parerea mea ....personala

Cosmin255 25-03-06 18:33

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
Familia mea mai exact , eu n-am o piftea in burta , nici permis n`am :) , dar imi place mai mult STul cum arata decat Golful GTI , de fapt GTIul imi place doar galbenul ala aprins...superb ala,in rest nu prea imi place , aa si rosu e frumos cum are Speeder dar parca s-au cam inmultit , ala chiar imi place , galbenul ala , in rest un ST portocaliu cu jante portocalii sau negre capac:)

mercut 25-03-06 19:12

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
ma care e culoarea la golfu ala gti de care zici tu? ca nu am mai auzit dar mi se pare misto din ce zici tu? :| pe nici un configurator nu e trecuta...o fi de la vw individual sau io stiu...nu ai si tu o poza ca tare sunt curios?

teddy 25-03-06 19:25

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
a fost o editie speciala la GTI-uri cu vopsele de lamborghini :cool:

mercut 25-03-06 19:57

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
pai stiam de editia aia dar nu cred ca a fost la gti...sau cel putin asa stiam

mike20 25-03-06 20:45

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
da` dc nu puneti in discutie si A3 2.0 tfsi,Renault 2.0T si celelalte masini din clasa cu putere aproximativ egala?...k nu exista doar gti si st...si asa ar fi un topic in care sa fie luate in considerare toate si cred k ar fi mai bine

zGb 25-03-06 22:44

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
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Originally Posted by teddy
a fost o editie speciala la GTI-uri cu vopsele de lamborghini :cool:

vezi ca vorbesti pe nas...exista catalog de culori speciale care nu are acces oricine la el...costa 500E in plus vopseaua si intarzie masina cu 1 luna...si exista FOARTE multe culori...cum probabil ai vazut acel gti portocaliu de fabrica sau a aparut mai nou un gti cu roti pe 18" si culoare albastru identic de r32...

mercut 25-03-06 23:47

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
da zgb e vw individual de care ziceam io....si intarzie cu 3-7 saptamani masina...si poti sa alegi culori diferite pt tapiterie si exterior printre altele.... ar mai fi dvd-uri in tetiere si etc...e un fel de quattro gmbh pt audi

teddy 26-03-06 00:36

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
vorbesc pe nas? ce texte obosite

teddy 26-03-06 00:45

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
da, din pacate culorile de la lamborghini 'Giallo Midas' si 'Arancio Borealis' vin doar pe 2.0 FSI si 2.0 TDI.

zGb 26-03-06 02:35

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
@mercut : nu era vorba de golf individual aici pe langa faptul ca vine cu, culori speciale vine cu cu spoilerul spate inferior vopsit la culoarea masinii si alte nuante de interior! cunoscatorul de teddy visa la editie speciala de gti cu lambo colour!

@teddy : esti avion...culorile alea se gasesc in catalogul de culori speciale...nu a fost nici o editie speciala de golf 5 gti pana acum si nici individual pe gti!

Urban_Racing 26-03-06 09:03

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
Ash merge pe Ford pt putere shi diferentza de pretz cu care po` sa mai "cumperi" catziva calutzi!

Cosmin255 26-03-06 10:02

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
Asa stiam si eu , ca a fost o editie limitata de culori de lambo dar nu sunt sigur de informatie , daca voi spuneti ca nu e , atunci nu e .
PS spoilerele erau normale , negre nu erau tot galben fosforescent

mercut 26-03-06 12:00

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
zgb daca downloadezi brosura de golf v de pe vw.ro o sa vezi ca exista optiune 'design vw individual' care merge doar pt golfu normal (fara gti si r32) si iti ofera un aspect mai sportiv pt masina si costa 560 euro cip..e si o poza pusa acolo...am dat si io search pe google si m-am interesat de golfu ala colorat si e doar concept se numeste vw speed si asa e teddy e pe 2.0 tdi si 2.0 fsi dar se pare ca nu se comercializeaza..inca
da ma gandesc ca daca ma duc la vw si cer o culoare speciala pt masina mea...de la vw individual..se poate daca platesc in plus nu?

Trickz 26-03-06 15:28

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
si io stiam faza cu culori lambo si am si vazut un golf lambo yello(:D) in buc...nui sta bine

teddy 26-03-06 15:28

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
sunt avion? ma uimesti cu atatea vorbe obosite :lol:
vw speed se numeste editia din cate retin. nu stiu daca s-au comercializat, se comercializeaza sau se vor comercializa sau pur si simplu au renuntat la idee si au bagat culorile ca optiuni in pachetele individiuale: sincer nici nu cred ca are vreo importanta... nu sunt asa spectaculoase vopsele de la varu' lambo precum te-ai astepta.

zGb 26-03-06 17:17

Re: Ford Focus ST Vs. VW Golf GTI
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by mercut
zgb daca downloadezi brosura de golf v de pe vw.ro o sa vezi ca exista optiune 'design vw individual' care merge doar pt golfu normal (fara gti si r32) si iti ofera un aspect mai sportiv pt masina si costa 560 euro cip..e si o poza pusa acolo...am dat si io search pe google si m-am interesat de golfu ala colorat si e doar concept se numeste vw speed si asa e teddy e pe 2.0 tdi si 2.0 fsi dar se pare ca nu se comercializeaza..inca
da ma gandesc ca daca ma duc la vw si cer o culoare speciala pt masina mea...de la vw individual..se poate daca platesc in plus nu?

FRATE EU CE-AM SCRIS MAI SUS??!?!?!?!!?!?!?!?!?!??!!?!?!??! ma refeream strict la gti ce naiba...cum a zis teddy ca a iesit editie speciala de GTI...total fals...e doar un catalog de culori speciale care sunt grave oricum...nu vorbeam nici de 2.0 tdi nici de 2.0 fsi :)


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