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Mda, am vazut si eu, buna gluma!

Nu mai stiu astia ce sa mai faca, ridica orice Ford in slavi.

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Cateva detalii noi despre viitorul M3/M4:

■ F80 M3 / F82 M4 are more than 10 seconds faster around the Nurburgring than the E90/E92 M3.
■ The M3/M4 were more or less built and developed around the steering. This electric power steering system (EPS) is the best that money can buy today. Our benchmark was to beat the current M3 in terms of steering feedback and we beat it (and there's not much out there that can claim to beat the current M3 when it comes to steering feedback and precision). The steering is very much an enjoyable part of the car and you will be able to enjoy it not just on the Nurburgring, but also just going to the office everyday.
■ Reported DIN weight is with standard brakes (not carbon ceramics).
■ Carbon ceramic brakes save 6-7kg (13.2lbs - 15.4lbs) overall. Not as much weight saved as on the F10 M5 with ceramic brakes, but that's because the caliper upgrade is much bigger than in the M5's situation. Here, we're seeing the calipers go from 4 piston front / 2 piston rear on the standard M3/M4 brakes to the 6 piston front / 4 piston rear calipers on the M Carbon Ceramic Brakes.
■ Automatic rev matching on the manual transmission is disabled in Sport+ mode. It's active in the Sport and Comfort modes.
■ Center of gravity is pretty much the same between the M3 and M4, but not identical since the two cars have different shock absorber settings. Both are a little lower than the 3/4 Series.
■ M3 naturally has an aerodynamically better shape than the M4 (if the M4 did not have its gurney integrated trunk) due to the M4's less steep and longer roof. The gurney flap integrated into the M4 trunk spoiler helps the M4 catch up aerodynamically.
■ New trunk lid removes 5kg (11 lbs) from the car instead of active rear spoilers which would have added weight to the car.
■ Manual transmission is a further developed gearbox from the 1M Coupe, with twin blade clutch, updated oil system and coating within the gearbox to take the higher load of the S55 engine. It's also lighter by more than 12kg (26.5 lbs) compared to manual gearbox in E90 M3.
■ Manual transmission gearbox saves 55 pounds in the US curb weight (compared to DCT).
■ Rear seats are 5kg (11 lbs) lighter than regular 3 or 4 Series.
■ Engine crankshaft is about 3kg (6.6 lbs) lighter than typical BMW inline 6 engine, but 20% stiffer.
■ Crankcase housing is 2.8kg (6.2 lbs) lighter. No steel liners. Unique aluminum alloy plasmacoated with steel plasma, which reduces friction levels. This technology was used on the M3 GTS with its upgraded 4.4L 450hp engine.
■ Car's components are engineered to withstand up to 1.4g braking force and more than 1.2g of lateral acceleration.

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Diferenta de 10 sec pe Nurburgring nu este deloc o performanta, pentru ca pe Nurburgring nu avea deloc un timp de laudat.

150. BMW M3 E9* - 8:05.00

Adica s-ar bate cu astea:

107. Subaru Impreza WRX STi 7:54.15 156 '07 308 / 1480 AndreaDg1989
108. Porsche Cayman S 7:55.00 156 '13 325 / 1320 Walter Rohrl

Pai sa ne uitam la asta:

95. BMW M3 CSL (E46) 7:50.00 158 '03 360 / 1385!!!

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2014 Audi RS7 vs 2014 Porsche Panamera Turbo! - Head 2 Head

RS7 - "a lot of understeer" - se pare ca nu au scapat de de urata problema!

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anormal ar fi sa nu apara understeer :))
R8 si parca TT-S sau TT-RS sunt singurele exceptii

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As paria un timp intre 07:55 - 07:50, probabil mai aproape de timpul CSL-ului …

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de la SportAuto.de: Audi RS4 vs. Bmw Alpina B3 Xdrive.

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P.s. Mercedesul desi e cel mai greu, i-a cam halit pe sfertul de mila desi nu el e castigatorul testului.

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Nu am inteles niciodata ce cauta Panamera in aceeasi propozitie cu Audi A6, BMW Seria 5 si Mercedes E-Class.

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Pentru ca este la fel sau chiar mai mica in interior!

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Ca sa mai scapam de lauda aia obosita a Mercedesului A45 AMG, sa aruncam o privire la adevaratii smecheri!

Mitsubishi lanseaza in Europa noul Lancer Evo X FQ440 MR cu 440 CP sub capota

"propulsorul turbo de doi litri modificat pentru a livra celui aflat la volan nu mai putin de 440 de cai putere"

Pentru mai multe detalii vizitati-ne la: https://www.4tuning.ro/masini-noi/mit...ota-22018.html

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Dar si pretul va fi pe masura ...

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Era vorba de reclama aia proasta si obosita cu cea mai mare putere a aunui motor de 2 litri si asta cand la aparitie inca exista in UK FQ400 in oferta.

Sa nu uitam ca in 2005 Mitsubishi a scos in EVO VIII FQ400!

Iar CLA chel pleaca de la 41,420 lire, deci nu e asa mare pretul Evo-ului la ce ofera.

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Am votat pentru AMG datorita sunetului incredibil..ca performante sunt cam la egalitate, cu minusuri si plusuri..RS 6 este o masina absolut incredibila, mai slabuta la capitolul aspect..M este ucigatoare, aspirator de pustoaice si te face sa te simti tanar mereu..AMG aspirator de femei long run:)) si stabilitate, conservatorism

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Wtf is this?

Din ce stiu eu, si opelul vectra e aspirator atat de pustoaice, de femei long run cum le spui tu, de femei cu cariera sau de virgine.

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Totusi, 50.000 de lire pe o masina anosta la design (chiar daca e f. performanta) nu mi se pare o smecherie. Deja la banii astia poti sa iti cumperi ceva f. misto, eu personal nu as da atatia bani pe o compacta.

http://www.topspeed.com/cars/mitsubi...2906.html#main

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Pentru ca ofera cu totul altceva. Nici STI nici EVO nu au fost niciodata exemple de frumusete, dar timp de 20 de ani nu au avut concurenta!

Pe langa asta, nu vad masina in acelasi pret capapiza sa o bata.

Daca vrei design, poti sa-ti iei TT TDI la 30k.

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2014 BMW M235i: More Than Just The Bargain M? - Ignition Ep. 106

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L-as lua oricand in fata 435i-ului (cu optiunea de LSD bifata)

P.s. L-am vazut pe ala rosu de la Bmw pe viu, ba chiar m-am suit si inauntru si am pus mana pentru prima oara pe volanul performance. La interior e cam cat E46, poate un pic mai ingust. Singurul lucru care nu m-a incantat e legat de pret, costa ~ 50.000 de euro fara tva!

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Oricand un CSL ...
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Tare finalul!

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ti-ai cumpara?

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doar cu o cutie manuala acel Subaru.
noul TT-RS cred ca o sa fie racheta. asta ar fi o masina ce mi-as dori-o.

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O sa fie foarte foarte smecher si foarte scump, dar abea astept aparitia si testele!

Sa vedem daca apare vreun competitor, ca deocamdata nu exista decat Cayman!

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For the new BMW M3 and BMW M4 [full technical info]
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http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=923444
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De la Autobild:
Vw Golf R(41.225 E/1:41,73 min)vs.Audi S3 Sedan(44.130 E/1:42,87s min)vs.Bmw M235i(44.510 E/1:40,90 min)vs.Mercedes A45Amg (63.875 E/1:40,82 min)

P.s. Pretul Mercedesului este aberant.

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sa vina RS3 odata!
cica s-ar putea sa renunte la 2.5 si sa fie un 2.0 ceea ce mi s-ar parea o tampenie, atat dpdv al sunetului cat si al faptului ca avand 380 cp din 2 litri inseamna tot timpul performante mai mici decat a avea 380cp din 2.5litri