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Mi-am mai amintit un argument destul de puternic impotriva masinilor germane. Fratilor, nemtii nu prea au designeri. Orice masina latina (renault, peugeot, seat, alfa, ferrari etc) este mai frumoasa si mai originala decat o nemteasca conservatoare care de 20 de ani pastreaza aceleasi elemente. O sa ziceti "da dar ia uite la noile audi" iar eu o sa zambesc. TOATE noile Audi sunt desenate tot de un latin. Mai mult, acest latin se numeste Walter da Silva si este fostul designer sef de la Centro Stile Alfa Romeo. Dupa ce a plecat de la Alfa a ajuns la Seat unde a desenat actuala gama (puternic influentat de experienta cu Alfa). In prezent, dupa cum spuneam, deseneaza Audi. Pentru cei care nu cunosc modelul sa faca o mica comparatie vizuala intre viitorul Audi A1 si Alfa Brera, va veti face o idee cine dicteaza designul pe piata europeana. Latinii au fost oricum inovatori in segmentul asta. Renault de ex. are un imens centru de proiectare care e cam cat Fabrica Roman si care se chiama Technocenter. Sunt primi care au reusit performanta de a produce un automobil de la faza de schita la productia de serie in mai putin de un an (pentru audi sau VW sunt necesari 2.5-3 ani).

Pe de alta parte in lumea design-ului auto ar trebui sa cititi criticile aduse noilor linii BMW o data cu seria 7. Sunt si multi fani BMW pe forumurile de afara care considera ca si-au batut joc de marca. Sincer pt mine singurul BMW cat de cat OK din noua generatie este Seria 1 care este mai echilibrat. Cred totusi ca masinile germane se indreapta spre o directie buna o data cu renuntarea la liniile conservatoare. De ex viitoarele modele de la VW cum este scirroco sau Golf vor schimba mult piata. Oricum consiter ca este o mutare tarzie pentru ca latinii sunt cu cel putin 10 ani inaintea nemtilor la partea de design. La motorizari nu mai are rost sa insist. Toti stiu sa faca motoare. Francezii i bat pe italieni in F1. Italienii i bat pe nemti in WTC. Nemtii i bat pe altii la Le Mans deci exista undeva un echilibru. Mai mult de atat trebuie sa fi prea dobitoc sa nu iti dai seama cate lucruri sunt comune in masinile de astazi. Pe partea de sisteme de injectie de ex gasesti sisteme nemtesti gen Bosch sau Siemens si in masini germane, italiene sau frantuzesti. Pe de alta parte nemtii dezvolta motoare cu francezii (motorul de pe viitorul Mini One facute de Grupul PSA) sau iau cu totul un motor italian si il pun pe o berlina (Audi A8 W12 cu motor Lamborghini)
Este normal ca fiecare sa aiba pasiuni si preferinte. Ce nu consider ca este normal e ca atunci cand ajung cu alfa la un service mecanicii sa se uite stamb si sa imi zica sa imi iau masina germana. Probabil ca te gandesti ca stiu ei ceva dar nu. Nu stiu nimic. Un ex. scurt. Uni dintre voi stiu cealalta alfa a mea. Un 33 boxer 1.7 16V cu 4 axe cu came. Am mers la 3 service-uri mari sa imi schimbe distributia. Dupa tratamentul gen "ia-ti masina germana" s-au uitat la motor, s-au scarpinat plini de intelepciune si au grait "complicat, nu ne bagam". Am schimbat singur distributia si merge brici. Ca o paranteza acest boxer se gaseste in varianta evoluata si pe Subaru Impreza. In 89 Subaru si alfa au facut schimb de tohnologie. Alfa le-a dat boxerul asta iar Subaru tractiunea integrala (actuala Q4 de pe alfa)
Ideea este, si cu asta inchei, nu mai catalogati masinile dupa gura targului. Mai intai trebuie sa conduci o masina ca sa poti spune ceva despre ea. Multi dintre cei de pe forum nu au stat decat in dreapta sau in spate pt ca nu au inca 18 ani dar au pretentii de a se bate cu pumnii in piept pt o marca. O masina este mult mai mult decat o poza iar in spatele ei au muncit mii de oameni. Incepeti prin a cauta calitatile unei masini si dupa aceea decideti ce vi se potriveste. Nu dupa ce ai auzit de la prietenul de bloc care are un prieten care are un unchi care a avut un ursulet.

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razvane te-ai incins asa rau incat ai inceput sa scrii romane??? :lol: eu inteleg perfect ce vrei u zici. eu iti zic doar atat: mie imi plac mai mult bmw-urile. asta e n-am ales eu lucrul asta, n-am vrut eu neaparat sa-mi placa. s-a intamplat pur si simplu. e ceva care ma atrage foarte tare la ele. intelegi? la fel e si cu femeile ;)

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Bai nu m-am incins si nu ma refer neaparat la tine. Fiecare are dreptul sa aiba o masina la inima. Nu am nimic cu BMW-urile insa ma dispera cei care zic "masina germana e masina germana". Eu accept ca BMW este la fel sau pe alocuri mai bun ca Alfa sau ca o Toyota Supra surubelnitzata se joaca si cu Alfa si cu BMW pana i sar pistoanele. Astea sunt realitati incontestabile. Povestea era despre cei cu idei preconcepute despre anumite marci iar eu pe cei cu aceasta mentalitate incerc sa i combat. Dupa cum spuneam o masina este mult mai mult decat o simpla poza si ma enerveaza cei care au pareri fara sa fi condus vreodata ceea ce ei critica.

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Ca sa mai schimb atmosfera va prezint viitoarea Alfa 4C Junior. Va avea dimensiunile unui Fiat Grande Punto si va fi cea mai mica Alfa din gama. Deoacamdata nu stiu nimic de motorizari dar se zvoneste ca va incepe cu un 1,4 turbo benzina. Design-ul este inspirat dupa Alfa Sud si Alfa GT Junior din anii 70

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Intre timp am aflat si motorizarile de pe 4C Junior
Dupa cum spuneam va fi un 1.4 Turbo Benzina de 150 CP si un motor 1.8 JTB de 220 CP. Va avea diferential autoblocant Q2 si va intra in productie in 2009

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am gasit ceva tare care completeaza cumva cuvintele mele referitoare la "nemtesti" Sper sa o luati ca o gluma si sa nu aruncati cu pietre dupa mine pe strada :D

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Volkswagen Reveals the Scirocco Concept
Volkswagen has revealed its Iroc sports car concept at a special event in Berlin. The Iroc marks the return of the Scirocco, Volkswagen’s iconic sports coupe, which made its debut at the Geneva Motor Show 33 years ago.

Even in color, with its Viper Green metallic paint, the Iroc harks back to the Scirocco, where this exact shade was available in the 1976 model range. The Iroc has distinctive dimensions, with a very long roof and steeply sloping rear, which not only gives it an aggressive and sporting appearance, it also liberates space in the back for two adults plus luggage.

In size, the Iroc is slightly longer (1.4 inch) than the Golf, measuring 165.4 inches and 2 inches wider at 70.2 inches. Its wheelbase is over 4 inches longer than that of the Golf at 104.5 inches; however with its squat coupe-like stance, it is 3 inches shorter at 54.6 inches. The Iroc has 19" alloy wheels.

The design of the Iroc is distinctive and eye-catching. It uses a Volkswagen ‘face’ which is not yet common to other vehicles in the range, though the honeycomb-shaped structure of the radiator grille is undoubtedly a link to the GTI. Another notable feature is the lack of obvious A pillars, due to the wide windscreen which overlaps them at the front.

Inside, the Iroc has four seats, as well as a spacious boot of 300 liters, which can be increased if the rear seats are folded down. Despite this practicality, the Iroc has been clearly designed inside as a sports car, with features such as front bucket seats and integrated five-point seat belts with central buckle.

Most distinctive, however, are the gauges and controls in the Iroc’s cabin. Two large and newly-designed round instruments form the visual centre of the cockpit. The driver looks into two cylinders with twelve illuminated bars which create a three dimensional segmentation within the instruments.

Under the bonnet, the Iroc features Volkswagen’s ground-breaking TSI petrol technology, which uses a turbocharger and a supercharger to produce diesel-like consumption with impressive performance. Designed to maximize driving fun, the concept has a 210 bhp TSI engine, but a range of TSIs, starting from under 150 bhp, are also feasible.

The Iroc combines practicality with driving fun and expressive design in a car that as a possible series-production vehicle would be attractively positioned in price.

The Scirocco was a huge success for Volkswagen, with over half a million examples of the Giugiaro-designed first generation produced. It was launched in the UK in 1974, with the second generation following in 1981.

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Volkswagen R GTI Transforming a Rich Part Into the ***ure
Thirty years ago Volkswagen launched the GTI, the “hot hatch” that would revolutionize the concept of affordable and accessible high-performance motoring. Now comes the R GTI, a look forward into the ***ure of compact car performance, making its debut at the 2006 SEMA Show in Las Vegas.

Few cars have enjoyed such an enduring run of success, and to honor the GTI’s rich past, Volkswagen has cast an eye on the GTI of tomorrow with the R GTI, a low-flying stealth machine developed by Volkswagen Chief Designer Derek Jenkins and his talented crew at the Volkswagen Design Center California, located in Santa Monica. With its striking carbon-fiber body panels, four-passenger sports car interior, powerful turbocharged engine and competition-bred suspension, the R GTI is a stimulating fusion of style and dynamic excellence, fully modern in content and achievement yet staying true to such longstanding Volkswagen values as drivability, durability and utility.

In collaboration with the firm OSIR Design, hand-laid carbon fiber component experts, Jenkins replaced the stock GTI’s front fenders, hood, side rockers, and hatch door with carbon-fiber panels developed by both OSIR and Jenkins’ in-house team. In addition to providing a weight advantage, the carbon fiber’s black weave creates a dazzling visual complement to the lustrous black paint scheme, which itself was adorned with hexagonal “stealth” graphics that echo the grille of the original GTI.

Additional carbon-fiber components are the lower front spoiler, front grille surround, rear rooftop spoiler and Jenkins-restyled rearview mirror housings, all in carbon fiber. Other distinctive exterior design touches include blacked-out front headlamp housings, R32 tail lamps with smoked lenses, R32-type central twin exhaust pipes with motorcycle-theme tips, a la Jenkins’ GX3 three-wheeler concept from 2005.

Reference to the GTI’s trademark hexagonal grille pattern is also seen in the R GTI’s specially constructed 19x9-inch aluminum alloy wheels, with lightness as a crucial contributor to reduced unsprung weight, and improved ride quality and cornering. Tucked within fenders designed for additional clearance, the beefier running gear includes Michelin Pilot Sport Cup ultra-high-performance radials, sized 265/30 R19. In track tests, the larger tire footprint proved to be a valuable ally in transferring the engine’s prodigious 340 ft-lb of torque to the ground. Despite being rolled straight out of the design studio on to the track, the R GTI pulled off an impressive zero to 60-mph time of 4.8 seconds.

The chief contributor to the R GTI’s impressive performance is the turbocharged engine developed in conjunction with APR, one of the country’s leading aftermarket Volkswagen tuners. APR develops and sells high performance, and high performance only, leaving others to peddle air fresheners and floor mats. APR’s engineers and product developers are passionate about Volkswagen technology, and it shows in the quality and results of their contribution to the powertrain.

It all starts with Volkswagen’s 2.0-liter FSI turbocharged four-cylinder powerplant, an award-winner for its unique combination of direct injection and turbocharging. APR also replaced the turbocharger with a larger Garrett ball-bearing unit with twice the flow capacity and pumped up the boost to 21 pounds per square inch. All of the pressure-side plumbing was strengthened with silicon hose. A large-diameter cast-aluminum, black powder-coated intake pipe feeds the big turbo the cool air it needs from the larger, front-mounted intercooler, delivering twice the stock air flow. An Inconel exhaust manifold and an APR stainless steel exhaust system ensure efficient flow-through. It’s a tidy, factory-like transformation, and the result is a whopping 375 **********, on 93 octane pump gas. If 100-octane race fuel is used, output rises to some 400 **********.

The exciting visual impact of the R GTI exterior is reflected in the interior, which is swathed in black leather complemented by red stitching. This theme runs throughout the cockpit, from the upholstery that covers the front Recaro Pole Position sports seats and rear custom-designed racing buckets, to the door panels and steering wheel, which also sports an R GTI logo. The effect is a blend of understated luxury and purposeful technology, underscored by the use of OSIR black carbon-fiber interior trim on the dash panel and in the doors.

Just aft of the front bucket seats is a clever safety belt system that was developed in the design studio. A remarkable example of the innovations that spring from Jenkins’ creative team, it’s comprised of a bar that anchors the front racing harnesses, which can swing up and out of the way to allow passengers easier access to the two rear seats. As part of the R GTI’s weight-reduction program, the stock rear seats were removed and replaced by an exceptional piece of carbon-fiber craftsmanship. The single piece of composite was fashioned into two racing buckets, each fitted with padded leather inserts. They’re a snug fit but are comfortable enough to take the in-laws on a fast lap or two. Another trick interior element is the custom aluminum billet shift knob, which Jenkins fit with a red “wheel” that can be revolved by the driver’s thumb. Look closely, and you can see that the wheel has been inscribed with the R GTI logo.

The R GTI is an uncommon and visionary blend of design talent, factory technology and aftermarket innovation, and an enticing demonstration of why Volkswagen has been a favorite of automotive enthusiasts since the GTI first hit the scene 30 years ago. It also shows that the ***ure of the hot hatch, as demonstrated by the R GTI, is already here.

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Asta din poze este conceptul IROC. Arata demential. In sfarsit au facut si astia de la VW o masina care schimba povestea. Chiar imi place insa sper sa pastreze cate ceva din concept si modelul de serie.

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Jetta R GT: An Uncompromised Synthesis of Power and Style
The dream of every high-performance tuner is access to the best, most durable, precise components; intelligent and adaptable control systems; and progressive, appealing styling.

It’s the dream of every high-performance tuner to transform that excellence into the extraordinary, to create exhilarating answers to the question, “What if…?”

Volkswagen shares this drive to push the dynamic and aesthetic boundaries of its vehicles. The vast network of engineers and designers within VW’s worldwide reach never need to be urged to challenge conventional wisdom, and this philosophy is reflected not only in the unique character of VW’s production vehicles, it’s also fully displayed in a stunning ultra-high-performance Jetta R GT built for SEMA 2005 in combination with HPA Motorsports.

The Jetta R GT is not just flights of fancy branding. The badging on this one-off tells a story of advanced platforms enriched with strategic applications of factory and aftermarket expertise.

The Jetta R GT began its transformation as a base 2005 model with a 150-**********, 2.5-liter five-cylinder engine and front-wheel drive. After the combined efforts of Volkswagen Design and HPA, however, it now sports fresh-as-tomorrow bodywork and a powerful, exquisitely massaged drivetrain that’s as comfortable cruising Pacific Coast Highway as it is smoking the competition at weekend time trials.

HPA replaced the base 2.5-liter engine with a twin-turbocharged, twin-intercooled, 550-********** variant of VW’s 3.2-liter, 240-********** six-cylinder V6 that powers the R32. To ensure that every bit of the torque gets to the ground in the most entertaining way possible, HPA fit VW’s highly acclaimed DSG twin-clutch transmission and 4MOTION all-wheel drive, both systems suitably modified by HPA to complement the engine’s bravura performance. A KW FIA GT 3-way coil-over race suspension and WRC-spec Brembo brake system were also installed to help harness the forces unleashed by the twin-turbo V6.

Cloaked with a special smoke gray paint treatment in the best Q-ship tradition, the revised coachwork includes new front and rear bumper fascias, side rocker panels and bespoke rear spoiler, offset by contrasting graphics and smoked glass treatment. The Jetta R GT’s willingness to run is revealed by the huge Michelin ultra-high-performance tires mounted to the 9.5 x 19-inch custom-built, forged-aluminum, modular Avus alloy wheels. Should the Jetta R GT hit the track, changing to a set of 9.5 x 18-inch mono-block, forged-aluminum DTM-spec Avus wheels is quick and easy with their DTM-style center locks and the AP Racing air jacks incorporated within the Jetta’s framework.

The Jetta R GT’s cockpit is inspired by the needs and desires of the weekend racer. An integrated roll cage, Recaro race buckets, Schroth harnesses and a fuel cell provide the required safety elements for competition, while an F1-style Stack electronic gauge cluster relays operating parameters to the driver quickly and clearly. Black leather, black Alcantara and matt-black carbon fiber styling elements complete the interior’s unashamedly competitive character.

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Si astea trei asa, scurt...:lol: :lol: :lol:

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sunt abosult criminaleeee!!!!!!1

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golf la 2.0 cu 400 cai si 4.8 sec. pana la 100 :shock: :shock: :shock: God help us

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sunt de aceeasi parere cu voi...mai schimbati si voi subiectul ca deja m-am saturat numai de vw...serios...imediat o sa facem un topic dedicat numai marcii vw...care dupa parerea mea personala...sucks...;)

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yackone.........e rasuflat de shpemii de ori subiectu asta, frenchi cars suks, nemtii cu bunele si relele lor sint deasupra lui renault, peugeot si citroen , DIN TOATE PUNCTELE DE VEDERE, si sa nu ne kkm pe noi k u ai pejo si eu fauve