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golf3diesel 31-08-10 21:34

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
@GTR vezi ca la kitul P800 (probabil si la altele) exista setari de low boost si high boost;) in unele curse care le-au facut VS Corvette ZR1 LPE(daca tin minte bine cu Zr1) au avut low boost si de asta au pierdut..dupa au dat re-race si s-a cam vazut diferenta

Giully4u 31-08-10 23:47

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Ma duc sa`l bat pe Gustav ca nu a scris bine in descriere. :))

Nu cumva in al 2-lea film aia sunt cai la roata? Asta inseamna ca la volanta sunt ceva mai multi.

GTR 01-09-10 09:47

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Giully4u (Post 3625094)
Ma duc sa`l bat pe Gustav ca nu a scris bine in descriere. :))

Nu cumva in al 2-lea film aia sunt cai la roata? Asta inseamna ca la volanta sunt ceva mai multi.

Repet, daca esti paralel cu fenomenul nu mai insista.
Ce spuneam eu este ca nu este o regula ca kitt-ul P800 sa aibe 800 CP si SPI 750 sa aibe 750, pot sa aibe mai mult sau mai putin, pentru ca o setare proasta soft sau boost poate sa strice totata combinatia.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tc1x6...eature=related

aceleasi kitt-uri alt rezultat si chiar Porsche a plecat mai bine si GTR a recuperat, surprinzator. Deci tine de setari, de benzina, de alte modificari, etc.

Unde este specificat concret este una, dar in filmuletul de la care a plecat discutia nu era specificata puterea.

golf3diesel 01-09-10 10:48

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
P800 are 707 cai la roata..chiar Switzer a declarat asta(intr-un link de la GTR),nu e paralel Giully pentru ca 707 AWHP inseamna mai mult la volanta

Giully4u 01-09-10 17:38

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Si ce spuneam eu e ca la kit`ul P800 puterea e apropiata de 800 de cai, mai ales cu benzina de competitie.

Si da, in filmuletul de la care a plecat discutia nu e specificata puterea.

Btw, si la Porche e reglabila din masina presiunea in turbina? Sau doar la Gtr? Ma refer la cele cu kit`ul Switzer.

golf3diesel 01-09-10 19:29

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
nu stiu daca se poate regla presiunea la 911 TT Switzer dar stiam ca Porschele castiga aproximativ 50 cai cu racefuel..cel putin asa era mentionat pe youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo-J7AXRhCc sper ca il vom vedea in actiune Vs Veyron

a3ds 03-09-10 12:39

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul LOL
 
Avea o semnatura prea tare un user, Nissanslol...

I was reading some Auto Motor und Sport article online, one where they compared the Porsche Turbo, Nissan GT-R (Black Edition) and Audi R8 V10 at Hockenheim. The Turbo won slightly ahead the GT-R which, in turn, was slightly ahead of the R8 V10.

In the same article they claimed that they wanted to do a northloop test with the same three cars, but the GT-R (Euro model - without launch control) failed, because the transmission was overheating and the car had to crawl back to pit in the fail-safe mode.

Exactly the same happend some time ago during a best motoring Tsukuba 5 lap battle. To make it even more worse, in the same article they noted that they took the GT-R to the 2010 Nardo high speed tests for production cars in Italy, however, in the article the GT-R was not mentioned or photographed, because at the first flying lap at 314km/h (195mph) the GT-R's engine died.

Are there any other technical problems with the 2010 GT-R known from other car magazine tests?

P.S. Without launch control the Euro spec GT-R can achieve only 4.0 second 0-100km/h time.

http://fastestlaps.com/articles/gt-r...ot_sorted.html

http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...-gt-r-mia.html

http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...gainagain.html

Edmunds Inside Line had a long term test GTR that had multiple failures.

Transmission leaked and was replaced. Evap control valve caused multiple check engine lights. Gas tank many times would only accept half a tank of gas and would sometimes spew gas out of the filler cap due to its saddle shape.

In their 15 month test the car was out of service for 37 days. They also commented on how expensive everything was.. such as $200 oil changes and tranny fluid that cost over $100 a bottle.

vacaroz 03-09-10 13:30

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
topicul se potrivea mai bine asa:nissan GT-R best money can buy or biggest mistake

GTR 12-09-10 00:20

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
GT-R technical problems still not sorted?
I was reading some Auto Motor und Sport article online, one where they compared the Porsche Turbo, Nissan GT-R (Black Edition) and Audi R8 V10 at Hockenheim. The Turbo won slightly ahead the GT-R which, in turn, was slightly ahead of the R8 V10.

In the same article they claimed that they wanted to do a northloop test with the same three cars, but the GT-R (Euro model - without launch control) failed, because the transmission was overheating and the car had to crawl back to pit in the fail-safe mode.

Exactly the same happend some time ago during a best motoring Tsukuba 5 lap battle. To make it even more worse, in the same article they noted that they took the GT-R to the 2010 Nardo high speed tests for production cars in Italy, however, in the article the GT-R was not mentioned or photographed, because at the first flying lap at 314km/h (195mph) the GT-R's engine died.

Are there any other technical problems with the 2010 GT-R known from other car magazine tests?

P.S. Without launch control the Euro spec GT-R can achieve only 4.0 second 0-100km/h time.

iustin balauru 14-09-10 17:46

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by vacaroz (Post 2897652)
pentru mine gt-r`ul este ca si peugeot la le mans... candavea puterea necesara sa bata audi dar nu si fiabilitatea de partea ei.asa a lasat impresia. ma intreb dc nu se chinuie sa faca de la zero o cutie ca sa nu mai faca plici, si inchid gura tuturor.

daca as avea banii as opta pt r 35 fara sa ma gandesc
este o masina incredibila si mult mult mai ieftina decat concurenta si este conceput in primul rand pt drifting nu pt drag
iar daca vrei cu adevarat sa ai si o masina tare de drag foloseste diferenta de banii dintre un zr1 si gtr si fai un tununing si pun pariu ca zr1 va ramane mult in urma!!

iustin balauru 14-09-10 17:53

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul LOL
 
[QUOTE=a3ds;3631366]Avea o semnatura prea tare un user, Nissanslol...

I was reading some Auto Motor und Sport article online, one where they compared the Porsche Turbo, Nissan GT-R (Black Edition) and Audi R8 V10 at Hockenheim. The Turbo won slightly ahead the GT-R which, in turn, was slightly ahead of the R8 V10.

In the same article they claimed that they wanted to do a northloop test with the same three cars, but the GT-R (Euro model - without launch control) failed, because the transmission was overheating and the car had to crawl back to pit in the fail-safe mode.

Exactly the same happend some time ago during a best motoring Tsukuba 5 lap battle. To make it even more worse, in the same article they noted that they took the GT-R to the 2010 Nardo high speed tests for production cars in Italy, however, in the article the GT-R was not mentioned or photographed, because at the first flying lap at 314km/h (195mph) the GT-R's engine died.

Are there any other technical problems with the 2010 GT-R known from other car magazine tests?

P.S. Without launch control the Euro spec GT-R can achieve only 4.0 second 0-100km/h time.

http://fastestlaps.com/articles/gt-r...ot_sorted.html

http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...-gt-r-mia.html

http://blogs.insideline.com/roadtest...gainagain.html

Edmunds Inside Line had a long term test GTR that had multiple failures.

Transmission leaked and was replaced. Evap control valve caused multiple check engine lights. Gas tank many times would only accept half a tank of gas and would sometimes spew gas out of the filler cap due to its saddle shape.

boath porshe and audi cost alot more money ! so buy a gtr and use the difrence to tunn it then we will see if those oponents stand a chance in hell before the gtr!!!:twisted:

iustin balauru 14-09-10 17:58

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by golf3diesel (Post 3627092)
nu stiu daca se poate regla presiunea la 911 TT Switzer dar stiam ca Porschele castiga aproximativ 50 cai cu racefuel..cel putin asa era mentionat pe youtube.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xo-J7AXRhCc sper ca il vom vedea in actiune Vs Veyron

este un filmulet cu un gtr vs veiron pe you toube (drag race)si gtr castiga:D

golf3diesel 14-09-10 22:06

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iustin balauru (Post 3657978)
este un filmulet cu un gtr vs veiron pe you toube (drag race)si gtr castiga:D

si mai este unul in care Veyron umileste multe GTR-uri...dar sa stii ca nici una din ele nu a castigat Moscow Unlim 500+ ci un Porsche Switzer 800...

GTR 14-09-10 23:24

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by golf3diesel (Post 3658584)
si mai este unul in care Veyron umileste multe GTR-uri...dar sa stii ca nici una din ele nu a castigat Moscow Unlim 500+ ci un Porsche Switzer 800...

Moscow Unlim 500+ a fost acum 1 an, intre timp GT-R a papat timpii Porsche.

http://www.dragtimes.info/results/quarter/

Iar cu Veyron, GT-R il bate doar pe 400m, pana sa-l bata pe mila mai dureaza.

golf3diesel 15-09-10 13:13

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GTR (Post 3658758)
Moscow Unlim 500+ a fost acum 1 an, intre timp GT-R a papat timpii Porsche.

http://www.dragtimes.info/results/quarter/

Iar cu Veyron, GT-R il bate doar pe 400m, pana sa-l bata pe mila mai dureaza.

cred ca nu prea esti la curent cu m5board/dragtimes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4ug0xytc88
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GFa7C7sXpLk

PS:Veyron a pierdut pentru ca proprietarul nu a dezactivat ESPul la plecare si asta a insemnat sa piarda mult timp..

Bogdan_mb 15-09-10 22:41

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by iustin balauru (Post 3657947)
...(r35)... este o masina incredibila si mult mult mai ieftina decat concurenta si este conceput in primul rand pt drifting nu pt drag

Truee... ai gresit doar putin.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GTR (Post 3658758)
Iar cu Veyron, GT-R il bate doar pe 400m, pana sa-l bata pe mila mai dureaza.

Nu chiar. Timpi 1 mile :

Bugatti Veyron А. 26.122
Porsche 911 Turbo (997) Switzer P800 26.127
Nissan GT-R R35 R850 26.141

Intradevar, cand sa inregistrat timpul pentru Bugatti , conditile meteorologice nu erau prea bune.

In schimb m-a asteptam la mai bine din partea 9ff-urilor :

Porsche 911 GT2 (997) 9ff 26.418
Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997) 9ff 27.013

Din cauza lag-ului foarte mare pierd mult la plecare.

GTR 16-09-10 01:11

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bogdan_mb (Post 3660982)
Truee... ai gresit doar putin.



Nu chiar. Timpi 1 mile :

Bugatti Veyron А. 26.122
Porsche 911 Turbo (997) Switzer P800 26.127
Nissan GT-R R35 R850 26.141

Intradevar, cand sa inregistrat timpul pentru Bugatti , conditile meteorologice nu erau prea bune.

In schimb m-a asteptam la mai bine din partea 9ff-urilor :

Porsche 911 GT2 (997) 9ff 26.418
Porsche 911 GT3 RS (997) 9ff 27.013

Din cauza lag-ului foarte mare pierd mult la plecare.

A fost reactualizat dupa ce am postat eu, am observat. Oricum nu este nimic iesit din comun, Porsche este clar mai frumos, foarte putin mai performant la drag, mai slab pe pista si fix de 2 ori mai scump.

golf3diesel 16-09-10 11:12

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
poate la drag dar la roll-on 9ffurile alea cred ca bat si Veyronul.

GTR 17-09-10 10:11

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
http://www.4tuning.tv/z1B7RIQiukx/Ni...9_secunde.html

golf3diesel 17-09-10 11:32

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
cum spuneam,GTR-ul este super bun de pe loc,la roll 9FF rullz.Oricum 9FF are cutie manuala temperament mai hardcore,iar GTR are prea multe computere,desi acest lucru arata eficienta.

GTR 17-09-10 11:44

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by golf3diesel (Post 3664092)
cum spuneam,GTR-ul este super bun de pe loc,la roll 9FF rullz.Oricum 9FF are cutie manuala temperament mai hardcore,iar GTR are prea multe computere,desi acest lucru arata eficienta.

Nu neg ca 911 inca este mai tare la drag si este si mai frumos, dar costa dublu si sa nu uitam ca GT-R R35 este inca la inceput de tuning iar istoria GT-R a demonstrat capacitati deosebite de tuning, GTR R34 nefiind egalat nci de GT-R R35 nici de Porsche. Referitor la electronica, GT-R 35 nu prea are nimic in plus fata de Porsche, trenul de rulare si sistemul 4x4 sunt total diferite, cu avantaje si dezavantaje.

golf3diesel 17-09-10 12:28

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQwroVunSQs

GTR 17-09-10 17:03

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by golf3diesel (Post 3664229)

Daca vrei ceva impresionat uita-te aici:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXU8S...eature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kpebo...eature=related

golf3diesel 18-09-10 12:57

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
le stiu pe amandoua,sunt vechiute rau :P (filmuletele)

andreimp3 19-09-10 17:23

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
poate ca nu sunt eu documentat bine, dar ma cam indoiesc la filmuleturl nr3 cel cu hayabusa... mie greu sa cred ca hayabusa a fost depasita de gt-r

adrian78bmw 19-09-10 17:42

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by andreimp3 (Post 3668715)
poate ca nu sunt eu documentat bine, dar ma cam indoiesc la filmuleturl nr3 cel cu hayabusa... mie greu sa cred ca hayabusa a fost depasita de gt-r

nu ai de ce o motocicleta pune mai greu puterea transmisa doar printr-o roata
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvvgjB9bwZ4

golf3diesel 20-09-10 22:24

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
BMWu ala din Grecia are 680 cai la roata..si se da la rolling start de la 140 kmh cu un R1 mai vechi...mda
Cat despre Hayabusa vs GTR
Uite ce face Hayabusa cu un GTR (mult) mai rapid decat P800,cand cel care calareste stie cum si cand sa ii dea...... : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMvuG...eature=related
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aSfsj...eature=related

UNLORD 18-12-10 13:45

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
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!41! 18-12-10 14:28

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Si ce demonstreaza asta? M5 -ul ala vine lansat . GT-R ul incepe sa accelereze cand masina germana era in fata

GTR 18-12-10 18:26

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by !41! (Post 3908067)
Si ce demonstreaza asta? M5 -ul ala vine lansat . GT-R ul incepe sa accelereze cand masina germana era in fata

Nu este vorba de asta neaaparat, M5-ul este modificat, GT-R-ul este stock.

roli 27-12-10 22:58

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjPXW...eature=channel :rolleyes2:twisted:

pharaon 28-12-10 22:10

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
impresionant AMS - GTR ...

GTR 08-02-11 11:56

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
:)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=4sHy7w5veHs

shadowro 08-02-11 15:41

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
ok , e un gtr modificat vs un 458 stock ...

GTR 10-02-11 11:03

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowro (Post 4065598)
ok , e un gtr modificat vs un 458 stock ...

Da, 110 k de EUR (cu tot cu tuning) vs 220 k de EUR

a3ds 10-02-11 11:06

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Europenele au preturi cam nesimtite, asta este adevarul adevarat. Exoticele gen Ferrari mai ales.

GTR 10-02-11 12:00

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Nissan GT-R R35 facelift

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTOlC...layer_embedded

GTR 10-02-11 12:38

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Next review:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSdDs...layer_embedded

sKyNeT 10-02-11 15:28

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
gtr vs 911 :lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=0evX-AWe7aI

shadowro 10-02-11 15:47

Re: Nissan GT-R 35 vs Restul
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by GTR (Post 4071142)
Da, 110 k de EUR (cu tot cu tuning) vs 220 k de EUR

si ce legatura are pretul cu performantele ? sau nissanul ar trebui sa aiba ponei iar ferrari-ul armasari.


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