Originally Posted by xxdadixx (Post 2525612)

Review la S5:
In January of 09 I bought an Audi s5, the “s” stands for SLOW! The steering is like mush, the road noise is way too loud, the rear view mirror is of no use, the seat are like old park benches, the windshield wipers are so bad they drag the water back over part of the windshield, I think it’s really powered by two very old chipmunks, the top of the line sound system is almost as nice as my old close and play, the doors close like a 78 pinto! This car is just a VW jetta with pretty led lights!

Originally Posted by a3ds (Post 2525802)

Bang&Olufsen ca si Bose sunt niste mizerii in hi fi, orice audiofil zambeste malitios cand aude afirmatii de genul "Daca si Bang/Bose nu se aud bine..." , probabil si tipul cu review-ul tendentios la adresa lui S5 este un entuziast hi fi si car audio daca a spus ce a spus despre sistemul "high end" de pe Audi...

E offtopic discutia despre audio si imi cer scuze dar uite un review foarte interesant:

http://www.intellexual.net/bose.html

Este mult de citit dar merita ca sa nu mai "puneti botul" la artificii de marketing si sa platiti 3 4 mii de euro pe un sistem audio "premium' care nu valoreaza probabil nici a 10-a parte din cat vi se cere, acasa sau in masina.

"The message I want everyone to take from this lengthy review is that Bose, like Bang & Olufsen and Nakamichi, sell lifestyle and designer products whose prices are very heavily saturated by image and appeal. They are by no means, no means at all performance products. They have no cost-effectiveness, no bang-for-the-buck value, and draw no respect from any true audio enthusiests. If your goal is to appeal to and impress housewives, then this system gets the job done, but if your goal is high fidelity, high performance, high endurance, upgradeability, and fair market value pricing then I would very highly suggest you look elsewhere.

Popularity. Popularity of a name brand doesn't equate to quality. Bose mystique feeds off of its well-targeted audience: the ignorant, ill-informed, mass-market consumers who search for simplified hifi audio solutions in "all-in-one" chain stores such as Walmart, Best Buy, Sam's Club, Price Costco, Sears, Montgomery Wards, etc. A Bose speaker, when put up against the in-store competition of Technics, Cerwin Vega, Pioneer, Kenwood, and Sony speakers, may indeed sound like a better buy. Since these Japanese mega-icons are established corporate monsters, the buyer will feel confident knowing that he or she made a thorough comparison with other household brand names. The truth is that generally the companies that make the best electronics, tend to make the worst speakers. Their mass-production business models of cheap labor, overseas assembly, nonexistant QA, and focus on bottom line spending leaves little room for the integral psychoacoustic research required for designing an outstanding speaker. I would estimate that the vast majority of current Bose owners are the victims of miseducation or a complete lack of audio education, and a false belief that they own the best speakers on the market. A small minority will buy Bose for the actual sound quality knowing full well that they are paying more for a badge than for performance. The size factor by itself should be a non-issue since Polk, Gallo, and others have already made smaller speakers than Bose for less the price and equally big sound. A simple way to test this theory is to see just how familiar a Bose owner is with the real industry leading brands, like Klipsch, Paradigm, Definitive Technology, and B&W. "What's that? I've never heard of that no-name brand."

Audio newbies often throw out the "But I heard that Bose is good!" defense, to which I respond "From who?" Was it a sound engineer, electrical engineer, materials scientist, studio engineer, sound producer, recording professional, musician, Mark Levinson? Ray Dolby? George Lucas? Anyone credible? Or was it your neighbor with the GoldStar walkman, Teac boom box, Funai mini-system, and Sylvania receiver? Perhaps the ubiquitous Bose Ads that they find in completely irrelevant magazines such as Popular Science, Times, Playboy, GQ, People, Astronomy, etc, had some sort of subliminal effect against the better of their judgment? But that's just conjecture..."

Originally Posted by PvDTranceAddicted (Post 2527532)

Hai sa va explic ceva, nu stiu cati ati ascultat Bang & Olufsen pe A5/S5 sau pe A8, eu unul le-am auzit pe amandoua, e diferenta mare si ca putere si ca fidelitate, cel de pe A8 e mult peste cel de pe A5, dar dpdv al calitatii sunetului fi sigur ca doar Bowers & Wilkins de pe Jaguar il poate egala sau depasii in unele frecvente, iar la capitolul sunet optional si nu custom made mai bun de atat nu se poate. Vrei sunet ultra hi-fi iti cumperi frumos Brax si Helix, dai cat juma de masina si rezolvi "problema", niciodata ceva standard nu va fi mai bun decat cel custom made pus dupa achizitionarea masinii, poate doar la capitolul suspensie (cea magnetica) si frane ceramice care sunt maxim din industrie, dar la capitolul sunet clar ce e varf de gama de la producatori de lux in car audio n-ai cum sa dai gresi.
Nu mai vb in necunostiinta de cauza ca va faceti de rahat singuri. Intai ascultati, testati, atingeti si simtiti masina si sunetul si tot si dupa vorbiti. S5 coupe e o masina incredibila...

Originally Posted by PvDTranceAddicted (Post 2527665)

Pardon franele pneumatice dar sunt doar proiect, abia in 2010-2011 va fi productie de serie... In F1 tot ceramice se folosesc asa ca de ce n-ar fi cele mai bune?!

Originally Posted by ionut_cluj (Post 2527956)

Ca sa nu ametesti: varful sistemelor de franare in momentul de fata il reprezinta franele electrice, pantentate de Bosch.

Originally Posted by PvDTranceAddicted (Post 2527532)

Hai sa va explic ceva, nu stiu cati ati ascultat Bang & Olufsen pe A5/S5 sau pe A8, eu unul le-am auzit pe amandoua, e diferenta mare si ca putere si ca fidelitate, cel de pe A8 e mult peste cel de pe A5, dar dpdv al calitatii sunetului fi sigur ca doar Bowers & Wilkins de pe Jaguar il poate egala sau depasii in unele frecvente, iar la capitolul sunet optional si nu custom made mai bun de atat nu se poate. Vrei sunet ultra hi-fi iti cumperi frumos Brax si Helix, dai cat juma de masina si rezolvi "problema", niciodata ceva standard nu va fi mai bun decat cel custom made pus dupa achizitionarea masinii, poate doar la capitolul suspensie (cea magnetica) si frane ceramice care sunt maxim din industrie, dar la capitolul sunet clar ce e varf de gama de la producatori de lux in car audio n-ai cum sa dai gresi.
Nu mai vb in necunostiinta de cauza ca va faceti de rahat singuri. Intai ascultati, testati, atingeti si simtiti masina si sunetul si tot si dupa vorbiti. S5 coupe e o masina incredibila...