Re: BMW 320D 177 cp vs. Skoda Octavia RS TDI
 

Ar fi trebuit sa sesizezi greseala intentionata referitor la "succesuri". Forma asta este folosita destul de des in bataie de joc, in gluma, etc de cand mirifica fatuca EBA a scos porumbelul.

Re: BMW 320D 177 cp vs. Skoda Octavia RS TDI
 

n-am de unde sa stiu daca glumesti sau nu. vad doar niste caractere, nici macar italice sau bold. sau un emoticon...

Re: BMW 320D 177 cp vs. Skoda Octavia RS TDI
 

Nu mă refeream la clasele mari, nici nu le-am pomenit, mă referam la modelul ăsta cu echipările specifice.
Îmi vine să rând când mă gândesc aşa că eu deţin un model premium, 320d...

Re: BMW 320D 177 cp vs. Skoda Octavia RS TDI
 

With its three brands BMW, MINI and Rolls-Royce, the BMW Group is the only car manufacturer whose portfolio focuses exclusively on the premium segment – from the small car segment to the ultra-luxury class.
We are taking the term premium to the next level.
We will continue to define premium for the future.
• Premium is sustainable.
• Premium is efficient.
• Premium is innovative.
• Premium is design.
• Premium is future.

The BMW Group is on the cutting-edge in all these areas.
1.) Premium is sustainable.
The BMW Group is the world’s most sustainable automotive manufacturer today.
Future mobility requires a new balance between individual and ecological requirements. This applies to both drive systems and production processes.
2008 marked the fourth consecutive year that the Dow Jones Sustainability Indexes ranked the BMW Group as the automotive industry’s global sustainability leader.
You as our shareholders stand to benefit from our commitment as the capital markets increasingly recognize and appreciate sustainability as a value driver.
We have anchored sustainability in our production with our approach “Clean Production”. And we will continue to set ourselves ambitious targets:
We plan to reduce the consumption of energy, water, sewage, solvent emissions as well as waste in our international production network by another 30 percent between 2006 and 2012.
This is responsibility that pays off – for us, for you and for the world in which we live.

2.) Premium is efficient.
The BMW Group has reduced fleet emissions further than any other car manufacturer.
The Federal Motor Transport Authority in Germany has confirmed our lead in the field of emission reduction:
• The average fuel consumption of our BMW and MINI cars in Germany is 5.9 liters per 100 kilometers. This equates to carbon emissions of approx. 158 g/km. On average, newly registered cars in Germany emit 165 g CO2/km.
• MINI’s average CO2 emissions are 138.6 grams/km.
• BMW’s fleet emissions are lower than those of Germany’s number one mass manufacturer and on par with car manufacturers whose portfolios primarily consist of small cars.

I consider this a convincing achievement. Let our competitors match that if they can. This is Efficient Dynamics at work.

49 BMW and MINI models comply with the strict EU5 emission requirements. The BMW 330d with the optional BMW BluePerformance technology even meets the EU6 standard taking effect in 2014.
Sheer driving pleasure starts at 4.4 liters per 100 km and 118 grams of CO2/km. This is the performance data of BMW’s new entry-level model – the BMW 116d.
With a BMW or MINI, you can travel much farther than with comparable models by our competitors. For 100 Euros
• a MINI ONE will get you from Munich to Gothenburg
• a BMW 123d from Munich to Madrid
• a BMW 320d from Munich to Athens and
• a BMW 740i from Munich to Rotterdam.

These are based on test drives. All thanks to Efficient Dynamics.

3.) Premium is innovative.
Our innovative models set new standards.
Three examples:
• Number one: The new BMW 7 Series. It is the absolute best car on the market right now. Our flagship model and its innovations are popular with both customers and the press. When “auto, motor und sport” recently chose their best cars of the year 2009, the new 7 Series dominated the luxury class – not least of all due to its efficiency. The 730d only consumes 7.2 liters of diesel per 100 kilometers. In Europe, the new BMW 7 Series is already the segment leader although it was launched only a few months ago. In Germany alone, sales for the new 7 Series were up more than 80 percent in the first four months of 2009 compared to last year’s figures. At the same time, competitors saw their sales deteriorating. In Austria, the federal and state governments are now driving BMW, namely the 730d and the 520d, the most environmentally friendly cars in their respective segments. Thanks to the new cars, the Austrian government will reduce carbon emissions by 43 tons a year. A strong argument for our innovative spirit and capabilities.

• Number two: The new BMW 5 Series Gran Turismo.
This is the contemporary interpretation of the sedan concept. The 5 Series Gran Turismo is going to define an entirely new segment. Its unique variability will attract new customer groups when it goes on sale in fall. As I see it, the 5 Series Gran Turismo is premium at its most innovative.

• And number three: In November, our X model series will be complemented by the BMW X1. This highly innovative vehicle will help the BMW brand address new customers as well.

4.) Premium is design.
In this area, we are, without a doubt, the trendsetter.
Just look at the new BMW Z4 that arrived at the dealerships last Saturday. It clearly demonstrates our trendsetting design philosophy and design language. For its contemporary interpretation of the classic roadster form, the new Z4 received the American Eyes On Design Award at the beginning of the year.

In June, both the new BMW Z4 and the new BMW 7 Series are going to receive the renowned red dot award. Please allow me to quote from the jury’s statement about the new 7 Series: it convinced jurors “with its harmonious combination of elegance, sporting flair and strong presence.” I couldn’t have said it better.
At the MINI brand, design is also a major stimulus for buying decisions. Fifty years ago, the first MINI rolled off the assembly line. But it was the BMW Group who catapulted the iconic design of MINI, successfully into the 21st century following the brand’s integration into the Group.
The same is true for Rolls-Royce. For Rolls-Royce we adapted the form of this classic car and the special tradition of this ultra-luxury brand to our times. The Phantom Coupe and the Phantom Drophead Coupe attest to that.
All our three brands – each of its own accord – are unique thanks to their extraordinary design.

5.) Premium also means future.
We are also in the forefront when it comes to new technologies and new mobility concepts. This includes hybrid technology, electric drives and mobility solutions for the world’s megacities:
• BMW’s first two hybrid models are scheduled to go into series production this year: the new BMW 7 Series as a mild hybrid and the BMW X6 as a full hybrid.
• The zero-emission electric-drive MINI E is the first result of project i. And it gives us a clear competitive advantage:
o In technological respects – as the MINI E already has a maximum reach of 250 kilometers and 204 hp.
o And in trial – as the MINI E will undergoing a major road test by customers in Germany, the US and the UK.
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De ce crezi ca 320d nu e o masina premium?

Re: BMW 320D 177 cp vs. Skoda Octavia RS TDI
 

Nu nu, e corect, doar e amuzant aşa, ca idee :)
O maşină pe care o alegi pentru economie mai înainte de toate, faţa de celelalte motorizări, dar te mândreşti că eşti "premium" :) Treburi de gâdilat orgolii, deh :)
Mă rog, să depăşim subiectul şi să ne întoarcem la versus

Re: BMW 320D 177 cp vs. Skoda Octavia RS TDI
 

Asa da! :lol: A ajuns 3'aru sa fie comparat cu un Golf 5.

Re: BMW 320D 177 cp vs. Skoda Octavia RS TDI
 

bun si atuncea un A8 2.0tdi sau S220CDI nici asta nu prea mai e premium

Re: BMW 320D 177 cp vs. Skoda Octavia RS TDI
 

Momentan nu exista A8 2.0 TDI. Umbla o stire cum ca ar vrea sa puna 2.0 TDI 200CP pe A8 dar din cate vad nu au pus, exista un 3.0 TDI "downgraded".

Re: BMW 320D 177 cp vs. Skoda Octavia RS TDI
 

100 si ... 77 cai, mai exact (va urma si cel de 184cp). Dar nu vorbim aici de cai, ci de sasiu, suspensie si distributie a maselor, care la BMW inclina spre partea sportiva, iar la Skoda ... nu.
Si BMW-ul este o masina din gama premium, iar Skoda ... nu.

ps: cred ca voi nu stiti ce face ca o masina sa faca parte din clasa premium. In niciun caz motorizarea, ca vad ca pe asta bateti - ca e diesel si e facut cu economia in gand => nu e premium. Guess what? cautati la clasele superioare, ca sunt atatea diesel-uri, incontestabil premium.

Re: BMW 320D 177 cp vs. Skoda Octavia RS TDI
 

O, da, mulţumiri pentru iluminare. Nu trebuie să foloseşti plurarul pentru că eu sunt singurul care susţine treaba asta.
S-a discutat subiectul de 10 ori deja, poţi trece liniştit ,mai departe dacă tot citeşti pe sărite.

Re: BMW 320D 177 cp vs. Skoda Octavia RS TDI
 

Ca sa fiu ontopic, pe "cea mai stricta sectiune a forumului", tin sa te informez, D-le aleks, ca esti habarnist in demeniu daca spui ca o masina nu este premium din simplul motiv ca este economica.
Ne-ai face tuturor un pustiu de bine daca ai inceta sa ne impartasesti din vasta ta experienta.

Re: BMW 320D 177 cp vs. Skoda Octavia RS TDI
 

Sigur, nu sunt un geniu in domeniu, mai gresesc atunci cand imi expun punctul de vedere, sper sa reusesc vreodata sa ajung la inaltimea vastelor tale cunostinte, pana atunci tin sa te anunt ca daca voiai sa-mi explici cat de tare am gresit ma citai dupa prima mea postare, cea in care am considerat in mod gresit ca o masina nu e premium daca e o motorizare diesel mica.
Citatul pe care l-ai pus e doar o constatare personala, care ma amuza si acum cand o recitesc :)
Apropo, faptul ca ai postat doar ca "sa mi-o zici tu mie" nu se numeste postat on-topic :)
Ce sa-i faci, va trebui sa ma suporti in continuare dandu-mi cu parerea pe unele subiecte, nu reusesc sa "get a life" cum mi-ai sugerat in p.m..

Re: BMW 320D 177 cp vs. Skoda Octavia RS TDI
 

DE-MI-SI-A! DE-MI-SI-A!
on: bmw rullzz, cel mai s00per jmeker dintre totzi!

p.s. dorele, depasim momentu'?

Re: BMW 320D 177 cp vs. Skoda Octavia RS TDI
 

Daca nu gresea aleks aveam chiar dubii ca e la fel de bun ca mine :))

Problema este aparitia lui Equant (or Punctum aequans) care are cateva vieti traite in plus si este greu de ajuns.

Re: BMW 320D 177 cp vs. Skoda Octavia RS TDI
 

am mers cu vechiul bmw 320D 150 cp ... mi-a placut la nebunie , presupun ca modelul mai nou si mai puternic , merge mai frumos . am mers si cu 2 skode , din pacate nu RS , 1.9 TDI , mi-au placut si alea .
skodele m-a bagau mai tare in scaun , dar la bmw acu de la kilometraj se misca mai repede ...
prefer vot Skoda , e a2-a mea marca preferata , imi place si bmw ... doar daca ar fi X-drive .