Re: Liderul clasei premium: BMW, Mercedes sau Audi?
 

Ca fost si actual posesor de ce ? Vreun sh picat ? Ma indoiesc ca ai avut toata gama de modele si pana una alta mai bine cred pe altii mai pertinenti in domeniu asta ;).

Re: Liderul clasei premium: BMW, Mercedes sau Audi?
 

in afara de faptul ca am mai adus si eu masini din germania si ca vis-a-vis de mine are un prieten parc auto f f mare, sa stii ca am detinut si eu cateva audi respectiv vw si unele modele chiar au probleme cu interiorul.

Re: Liderul clasei premium: BMW, Mercedes sau Audi?
 

Ok daca tu zici :).

Re: Liderul clasei premium: BMW, Mercedes sau Audi?
 

Pentru cine are timp sa citeasca si sa bage la bibilica din discursul lui Dr. Norbert Reithofer la "Annual General Meeting of BMW AG"


With its three brands BMW, MINI and Rolls-Royce, the BMW Group is the only car manufacturer whose portfolio focuses exclusively on the premium segment – from the small car segment to the ultra-luxury class.
We are taking the term premium to the next level.
We will continue to define premium for the future.
• Premium is sustainable.
• Premium is efficient.
• Premium is innovative.
• Premium is design.
• Premium is future.

The BMW Group is on the cutting-edge in all these areas.
1.) Premium is sustainable.
The BMW Group is the world’s most sustainable automotive manufacturer today.Future mobility requires a new balance between individual and ecological requirements. This applies to both drive systems and production processes.
2008 marked the fourth consecutive year that the Dow Jones Sustainability Indexes ranked the BMW Group as the automotive industry’s global sustainability leader.You as our shareholders stand to benefit from our commitment as the capital markets increasingly recognize and appreciate sustainability as a value driver.
We have anchored sustainability in our production with our approach “Clean Production”. And we will continue to set ourselves ambitious targets:
We plan to reduce the consumption of energy, water, sewage, solvent emissions as well as waste in our international production network by another 30 percent between 2006 and 2012.
This is responsibility that pays off – for us, for you and for the world in which we live.

2.) Premium is efficient.
The BMW Group has reduced fleet emissions further than any other car manufacturer.
The Federal Motor Transport Authority in Germany has confirmed our lead in the field of emission reduction:
• The average fuel consumption of our BMW and MINI cars in Germany is 5.9 liters per 100 kilometers. This equates to carbon emissions of approx. 158 g/km. On average, newly registered cars in Germany emit 165 g CO2/km.
• MINI’s average CO2 emissions are 138.6 grams/km.
• BMW’s fleet emissions are lower than those of Germany’s number one mass manufacturer and on par with car manufacturers whose portfolios primarily consist of small cars.

I consider this a convincing achievement. Let our competitors match that if they can. This is Efficient Dynamics at work.

49 BMW and MINI models comply with the strict EU5 emission requirements. The BMW 330d with the optional BMW BluePerformance technology even meets the EU6 standard taking effect in 2014.
Sheer driving pleasure starts at 4.4 liters per 100 km and 118 grams of CO2/km. This is the performance data of BMW’s new entry-level model – the BMW 116d.
With a BMW or MINI, you can travel much farther than with comparable models by our competitors. For 100 Euros
• a MINI ONE will get you from Munich to Gothenburg
• a BMW 123d from Munich to Madrid
• a BMW 320d from Munich to Athens and
• a BMW 740i from Munich to Rotterdam.

These are based on test drives. All thanks to Efficient Dynamics.

3.) Premium is innovative.
Our innovative models set new standards.
Three examples:
• Number one: The new BMW 7 Series. It is the absolute best car on the market right now. Our flagship model and its innovations are popular with both customers and the press. When “auto, motor und sport” recently chose their best cars of the year 2009, the new 7 Series dominated the luxury class – not least of all due to its efficiency. The 730d only consumes 7.2 liters of diesel per 100 kilometers. In Europe, the new BMW 7 Series is already the segment leader although it was launched only a few months ago. In Germany alone, sales for the new 7 Series were up more than 80 percent in the first four months of 2009 compared to last year’s figures. At the same time, competitors saw their sales deteriorating. In Austria, the federal and state governments are now driving BMW, namely the 730d and the 520d, the most environmentally friendly cars in their respective segments. Thanks to the new cars, the Austrian government will reduce carbon emissions by 43 tons a year. A strong argument for our innovative spirit and capabilities.

• Number two: The new BMW 5 Series Gran Turismo.
This is the contemporary interpretation of the sedan concept. The 5 Series Gran Turismo is going to define an entirely new segment. Its unique variability will attract new customer groups when it goes on sale in fall. As I see it, the 5 Series Gran Turismo is premium at its most innovative.

• And number three: In November, our X model series will be complemented by the BMW X1. This highly innovative vehicle will help the BMW brand address new customers as well.

4.) Premium is design.
In this area, we are, without a doubt, the trendsetter.
Just look at the new BMW Z4 that arrived at the dealerships last Saturday. It clearly demonstrates our trendsetting design philosophy and design language. For its contemporary interpretation of the classic roadster form, the new Z4 received the American Eyes On Design Award at the beginning of the year.
In June, both the new BMW Z4 and the new BMW 7 Series are going to receive the renowned red dot award. Please allow me to quote from the jury’s statement about the new 7 Series: it convinced jurors “with its harmonious combination of elegance, sporting flair and strong presence.” I couldn’t have said it better.
At the MINI brand, design is also a major stimulus for buying decisions. Fifty years ago, the first MINI rolled off the assembly line. But it was the BMW Group who catapulted the iconic design of MINI, successfully into the 21st century following the brand’s integration into the Group.
The same is true for Rolls-Royce. For Rolls-Royce we adapted the form of this classic car and the special tradition of this ultra-luxury brand to our times. The Phantom Coupe and the Phantom Drophead Coupe attest to that.
All our three brands – each of its own accord – are unique thanks to their extraordinary design.

5.) Premium also means future.
We are also in the forefront when it comes to new technologies and new mobility concepts. This includes hybrid technology, electric drives and mobility solutions for the world’s megacities:
• BMW’s first two hybrid models are scheduled to go into series production this year: the new BMW 7 Series as a mild hybrid and the BMW X6 as a full hybrid.
• The zero-emission electric-drive MINI E is the first result of project i. And it gives us a clear competitive advantage:
o In technological respects – as the MINI E already has a maximum reach of 250 kilometers and 204 hp.
o And in trial – as the MINI E will undergoing a major road test by customers in Germany, the US and the UK.

Re: Liderul clasei premium: BMW, Mercedes sau Audi?
 

BMW-ul il consider castigator doar la motoare, in momentul de fata.
Citeam pe undeva cum ca unii din fanii BMW-ului inca mai cumpara bmw-ul doar de dragul motorului si a modului cum se conduce. Caci ar fi dezamagiti de modul cum a evoluat designul.

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Da,sunt sigur ca fanii bmw sunt f dezamagiti de design,urate sunt BMW`urile astea,nici nu poti sa te uiti la ele ca sunt hidoase,mai dai un simplu search pe google la imagini si vezi ce hidoase sunt. Doamne cate vad pe forumu asta,plin de dezastre care sufera.
Sunt dezamagit cand vad asa ceva:

Re: Liderul clasei premium: BMW, Mercedes sau Audi?
 

Ce ste drept nu mi se par frumoase, dar mi se par s(h)armante cu personalitate si caracter si asta uneori e mai de apreciat decat o frumusete.

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Tocmai ce m-am intors de la bavaria, am condus cativa km buni un seria 5 facelift 525xd si merge bomba masina si avea pachet de aluminiu pe placul meu! Directia nu era active steering, ba chiar mi-a lasat o mai buna impresie decat cea activa, iar masinuta chiar se misca bine la kickdown si in depasiri. Stabila, coerenta, foarte relaxanta si fara neplaceri la condus. Clar o masina buna, dar inca nu sunt impacat in totalitate cu design-ul dintr-un simplu motiv...fata e fluida iar spatele abrut se termina cu portbagajul drept, asta nu prea e ok.
Am fost si la autoshow in mamaia si acolo era prezent si noul Z4 si pot sa spun ca da, ala arata a BMW, pt mine mi se pare la ora actuala cel mai reusit ca design si mai ales interior, iar combinatia de pielea alba si neagra e ideal pt mine. Luni incerc si un 740i nou, ca ultima data n-avea decat 730d pe care l-am condus, iar acum vreau sa vad si benzina cum se misca, eu fiind fan benzina clar o sa ma impresioneze. Toate trei brandurile raman tari, dar dintr-un motiv puteti spune voi mai subiectiv pe primul loc ramane Audi, Mercedes si BMW pe 3 in topul meu.
Asta simt eu, nu trebuie neaparat sa ma intelegeti, ca suntem multi care avem pareri proprii pro sau contra ca si a mea desigur.

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Eu as prefera BMW-ul sa aibe un design mai agresiv. Lucru ce mie mi se pare ca l-au pierdut de cativa ani buni.

Man mai lasa-ma cu extremismele astea, uita-te in jur si o sa vezi masini mai frumoase la preturi mai mici. Nu dau exemple ca o sa iasa iar in fata impatimitii care vad numai intr-o parte, fara sa fie realistil. Poti sa fi fan al unei marci dar nu trebuie sa fi orbit de ea.
Legat de afirmatia cu fanii, la noi pe forum BMW, la nemti, la britianici, intra pe forumuri si o sa vezi ce pareri au ei.
Eu unul inclin spre BMW, ador motoarele si modul cum se conduc, dar as fi vrut alt design.

Re: Liderul clasei premium: BMW, Mercedes sau Audi?
 

Si eu as fi vrut alt design si siguranta de M3 pe toata gama, cu tehnologia si siguranta lui M3 pt ca din cate stiu eu M3 are ff multe sisteme de siguranta ff avansate cu toate ca stiu foarte bine ca tot X6 e cel mai sigur BMW pt ca are diferentialul spate de ultima generatie. La design BMW nu este ok, dar la motoare si performante da!

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Intradevar BMW sta "ff" bine la siguranta fiindca au multe modele cu "ff" multe sisteme de siguranta "ff" performante si rezultatul este "ff" impresionant. Totusi ai putea sa renunti la atatea 'foarte foarte" ca realitatea tot aia este. Un punct bun de plecare este seria 5, masina de ultima generatie, sedan din clasa mare premium care costa cat o bomba nucleara si nu este in stare sa aiba 5 stele la siguranta cand sunt rahaturi de masini mai mici, cabrio si tot tacamul care au 5 stele. "ff" tare. :lol::lol::lol:.

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vad ca nu prea a raspuns nimeni la aceasta intrebare, mai titi va certati pe tema interiorului bmw. daca va ganditi mai bine va dati seama ca in clasa premium mercedes este taticul (arata bine are un aer de domn motoare puternice sunt, lux cat cuprinde etc) am destule motive ca sa cred asta nu?

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Si cand ma gandesc ca apare M8 ....
BMW M8 stats
Top speed > Limited 462 km/h (288 mph)
0 - 100 km/h ( 62 mph) est. 3.5 seconds
0 - 200 km/h (124 mph) est. 9.5 seconds
0 - 300 km/h ( 186 mph) est. 22.0 second

Re: Liderul clasei premium: BMW, Mercedes sau Audi?
 

mie nu-mi trebuie o masina cu aer de domn;) asta inseamna sa nu-mi iau mercedes??? wtf?:omfg:

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With a rumoured top speed of 462km/h (288mph), it outpaces the 1000+ hp Bugatti Veyron, which has a top speed of 407 km/h. astoundingly, the BMW M8 does this with no help from a supercharger or turbo while the Veyron relies on a quad-turbocharged 8L engine.

If these stats are indeed true, this will make the BMW M8 the fastest production car in the world, surpassing the SSC Ultimate Aero TT, which ousted the Veyron from it's top spot.

The pictures circling around the Internet claiming that BMW made a 462 kph car is an urban legend, pure fiction

puteai sa dai un copy/paste si la astea, sau tu crezi tot ce scrie pe internet