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View Poll Results: AMG vs M vs RS
AMG 493 30.45%
M 759 46.88%
RS 367 22.67%
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Old 22-10-13, 11:03   #3136
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pai si cand va fi RS3-ul, ce or sa faca astia ?
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Old 22-10-13, 14:09   #3137
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Asa te intrebai si cu RS6/RS7 ... Cand apare RS3?
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Old 22-10-13, 15:03   #3138
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pai si cand va fi RS3-ul, ce or sa faca astia ?
cand o sa apara A45 amg black series, oare ce o sa faca rs3-ul?
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Old 23-10-13, 09:22   #3139
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nu am avut niciodata incredere in RS6/7 cel putin in relatia cu M5/M6 si am postat in acest sens, insa dupa cum altii au aratat, 585 cp nu-s suficienti pt E si CLS amg sa tina pasul cu M si RS decat pe primii 100km/h.

in ceea ce priveste motorul de peS3, vad ca se misca oarecum decent fata de A45amg si e o diferenta enorma de 60 cp si 70NM.
A45 amg nu tine pasul cu RS3 din vechea generatie, ce este pe o platforma f veche din 2003.
2.5tfsi cu 360 cp vor fi suficienti pt noul RS3, mai ales si cu scaderea de greutate a sasiului, chiar in eventualitatea unui A45AMG black series cu 400cp, desi majoritatea estimarilor spun aprox 380 cp pt RS3.

probabil inca un an pt RS3:
http://www.worldcarfans.com/11310046...ht-in-the-open

ce am gasit intre a45 si obositul de rs3.
average:
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/duel3710-4506.htm
absolute:
http://www.zeperfs.com/en/match3710-4506.htm

ce vad aici, ca si in diverse filmulete(inclusive chris harris rs3 vs m135 de generatie noua), este ca la viteze mari de peste200km/h rs3 a fost absolut praf.

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Old 24-10-13, 00:13   #3140
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Pe dyno bmw`ul a scos ~598hp, iar amg-ul 630+. Bun bun bun
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Old 26-10-13, 16:00   #3141
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Imi place A45 AMG dar performantele nu sunt exceptionale. Ma mai enerveaza si toate reclamele si promovarile stupide si toata valva asta cu puterea asta scoasa dintr-un motor de 2000cmc.

Lumea a cam uitat Lancer EVO 8 FQ400, masina scoasa in 2005 care dintr-un motor de 2000cmc a scos 399 CP foarte fiabili, o masina cu performante net superioare acestui A45 AMG.

Cand a aparut A45AMG, Evo x FQ400 (405cp) inca era la vanzare, o masina care iari il indoaie pe A45 AMG.

Asa ca acest A45 AMG este o masina draguta, destul de performanta dar in niciun caz vreo revolutie sau vre-un etalon in clasa, decat in cadrul brandului Mercedes.
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Old 26-10-13, 19:48   #3142
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405 cai, probabil foarte fiabili, dar cu un turbo lag mare rau de tot.
Si pe mine ma enerveaza promovarea asta falsa, dar totusi fq400 nu e chiar comod de folosit day-by-day. Si as vrea sa aflu asta pe pielea mea.
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Old 26-10-13, 20:49   #3143
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Tocmai din cauza lagului si poate fiabilitatii, consider ca 150cp pt un litru este maximul ce ar trebui incercat.
Si cred ca motoarele mici cu putere mare sunt rapide doar la vitezele mici in sesnul ca de la 150 la 250km/h, 360cp din 3 litri vor fi mai buni ca 360 cp din 2 litri, chiar daca in prima varianta masina are si 50-100 kg in plus.
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Old 27-10-13, 03:04   #3144
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accelerarea la viteze mari se face de catre cuplu. deci o sa 150-200km/h o sa castige aia 360cp care au mai mult cuplu.
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Old 27-10-13, 10:16   #3145
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Cate lucruri noi afli pe aici...
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Old 27-10-13, 16:41   #3146
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405 cai, probabil foarte fiabili, dar cu un turbo lag mare rau de tot.
Si pe mine ma enerveaza promovarea asta falsa, dar totusi fq400 nu e chiar comod de folosit day-by-day. Si as vrea sa aflu asta pe pielea mea.
Vorbeam strict de potentialul motorului, masinile nu sunt aceeasi clasa.

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Tocmai din cauza lagului si poate fiabilitatii, consider ca 150cp pt un litru este maximul ce ar trebui incercat.
Si cred ca motoarele mici cu putere mare sunt rapide doar la vitezele mici in sesnul ca de la 150 la 250km/h, 360cp din 3 litri vor fi mai buni ca 360 cp din 2 litri, chiar daca in prima varianta masina are si 50-100 kg in plus.
Legat de lagul turbo, o varianta biturbo il elimina total, cat de fiabilitate, motorul de EVO (nu neaaparat FQ) merge linistit mult, si fara probleme la 200CP/l.
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Old 28-10-13, 23:00   #3147
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Interesant .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11xdRFOSMiE
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Old 29-10-13, 23:11   #3148
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Old 01-11-13, 14:45   #3149
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imi place foarte mult cum arata RS7 in aceasta fotografie. cred ca asta e culoarea cea mai interesanta pt RS6/RS7
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Old 01-11-13, 18:22   #3150
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E misto, dar jantele pe 21'' sunt un chin pt drumurile de aici ... si 20 cred ca e mult.
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