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View Poll Results: AMG vs M vs RS
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AMG
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30.45% |
M
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46.88% |
RS
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22.67% |
09-03-12, 13:01
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
Chris Harris isi spune pasurile legate de BMW M550d X Drive:
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09-03-12, 13:40
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
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Originally Posted by UNLORD
Chris Harris isi spune pasurile legate de BMW M550d X Drive:
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Nu degeaba il consider cel mai bun editor auto.
S-a inteles clar, este ok masina, este insa un family car, nu prea are treaba cu ideea si spiritul M, nu ofera feeling-ul asteptat de la un M, fie el si diesel. Este o masina ok de zi cu zi, dar nimic spectaculos.
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09-03-12, 15:01
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
Deci cam scumpicel pentru un diesel de familie care nu are treaba cu ///M puteau sa ii puna doar 550xd...Motorul asta e bun pe seria 7 X5 X6 pentru concurenta A8 4.2 TDI si Q7 4.2TDI si pe seria 6 si 6GC
Dar asta este orice tehnologie noua costa!!
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09-03-12, 15:59
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
Trebuia postata la Merc vs. Bmw vs. Audi ...
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12-03-12, 13:26
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
M5-ul trece prin mana celor de la Top Gear:
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15-03-12, 21:16
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
Inca un test in care BMW-ul "minte" la cifre, ca sa ii dam lui Elodia apa la moara, ca bine ne mai sfatuieste el in domeniu ... e vb. tot despre M5-ul ... dar intr-un test scanat de la Autobild Sportcars, impotriva CTS-V, E63 AMG PP, Jag XFR. Pe scurt, masuratorile de la Autobild (inclusiv cantar):
1st place: BMW M5 F10
Tyres: Michelin Pilot Super Sport
Weight: 1930 kg
0-100 km/h: 3,9 s
0-200 km/h: 11,8 s
Quarter mile: 11,98 s
Flexibility (80-120 km/h) in 5th gear: 3,9 s
Braking (100-0 km/h), warm: 34,7 m
2nd place: Cadillac CTS-V Automatic
Tyres: Michelin Pilot Sport PS2
Weight: 1980 kg
0-100 km/h: 4,3 s
0-200 km/h: 14,1 s
Quarter mile: 12,49 s
Flexibility (80-120 km/h) in 5th gear: 6,1 s
Braking (100-0 km/h), warm: 34,4 m
3rd place: Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG Performance Package
Tyres: Continental SportContact 5P
Weight: 1929 kg
0-100 km/h: 4,1 s
0-200 km/h: 12,6 s
Quarter mile: 12,07 s
Flexibility (80-120 km/h) in 5th gear: 4,6 s
Braking (100-0 km/h), warm: 34,6 m
4th place: Jaguar XFR
Tyres: Dunlop SP Sportmaxx J
Weight: 1970 kg
0-100 km/h: 4,5 s
0-200 km/h: 14,4 s
Quarter mile: 12,54 s
Flexibility (80-120 km/h) in 5th gear: 6,0 s
Braking (100-0 km/h), warm: 35,6 m
Sachsenring-tracktimes:
1:37,82 min - Porsche Panamera Turbo S
1:38,16 min - Porsche Panamera Turbo
1:38,66 min - BMW M5 F10
1:40,86 min - Cadillac CTS-V Automatic
1:41,00 min - Mercedes-Benz E63 AMG PP (best is 1:40,6 min)
1:43,75 min - Jaguar XFR
Verdict:
- The M5 is the clear winner here, fastest in the straightline, fastest on the track. With Launch Control 0-100 kph is in 3,9 s!
- The Cadillac made a little sensation beating the E63 AMG PP: great performance, big fun for relatively low costs.
- The 3rd place is for the Merc: it's the only one that can get close to the M5 on the straightline. Best 0-100 kph run: from 1800 rpm.
- Last place for the relaxed Jaguar.
Last edited by UNLORD; 15-03-12 at 21:24.
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15-03-12, 22:50
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
Greutate la gol de fabrica :
M5 : 1945 kg
E63 : 1840 kg
Greutate la gol test :
M5 : 1930 kg ( - 15 kg )
E63 : 1929 kg (+ 89 kg )
http://www.bimmerboost.com/content.p...nd-curb-weight
4384 pounds = 1 988.5 kg
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- The Cadillac made a little sensation beating the E63 AMG PP
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Ma uit pe lista aceea de timpi si nu vad unde ?
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16-03-12, 14:30
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
Azi am vazut in Bucuresti al 2-lea M5 nou (F10). Primul l-am vazut acum 5 zile.
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Last edited by GTR; 16-03-12 at 14:40.
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16-03-12, 15:36
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
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Unii producatori dau greutatea la gol (dry weight), BMW-ul fara fluide and stuff are 1870 kg. Pana la urma au aceleasi dimensiuni, e normal sa fie apropiate la masa, ambele sunt pe platforma clasica de otel. Poate mai cantresc si optinalele, dracu stie, am mai gasit un test scanat, de data asta de la Autozeitung si e cam aceasi poveste.
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19-03-12, 16:16
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
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20-03-12, 13:13
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
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20-03-12, 15:50
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
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Originally Posted by Bogdan_mb
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si mai zic taranii ca e " dizelu " zgomotos.
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20-03-12, 18:47
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
Nu, nu taranii zic ca este diesel-ul zgomotos, oamenii care nu au probleme grave cu auzul zic ca este zgomotos diesel-ul, intr-o comparatie cu benzina pierde lejer. Chestia este ca la masini de performanta, ca asta se discuta pe thread-ul asta, sound-ul este un must have, nu trebuie sa fie dead silent in interior (cel putin cand o calci pe coada) ca nu asta e scopul insa postul tau nu ma surprinde, ai scris tu alte bazaconii mult mai mari.
Sa mai spun ca sunetul la masinile astea este PLACUT si FRUMOS, spre deosebire de horcaitul MAC-urilor ?
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20-03-12, 18:50
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Re: AMG vs. M vs. RS
Eu nu inteleg obsesia pentru masini high performance premium diesel, este o ghiorlaneala generala. Daca ai bani de un M5, ai bani sa iti mai iei si o octavia 2 diesel sh sa te duci cu ea la piata, wtf.
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