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View Poll Results: VW Golf 4 vs. Opel Astra G vs. Ford Focus
VW Golf 4 399 54.51%
Opel Astra G 160 21.86%
Ford Focus 173 23.63%
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Old 13-09-08, 09:47   #361
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jiji urlatoru' yo zic sa te calmezi, altfel ajungi la sapoca

am o vectra b 2001 de 2.6 170 cp, care violeaza in orice pozitie tigaia ta de clatite si un 530 din 2001(asta asa sa stii si tu, ca doar nu faceam 1.2 mil km cu dacia)!

toti vb relaxati, numai tu iti tai venele gratuit!
Da dar si-au spus parerea, intr-un mod mai mult sau mai putin linistit si cei care au chiar sub 100cp sub capota....sau aia nu au dreptul?Cat despre acel "viol", orice nas isi are "violatorul".Incearca cu cei 170cp ai tai 2.2tdci-ul si o sa devii tu tigaie .Ai vazut Mondeo ala de pe youtube? (mondymania parca il cheama pe posesor), are un Mondeo 2.2 model 2005 de 155cp cipat la 195.Face un Porche Chayene de 240cp, un Touareg V10, un Nissan 250Z de 280cp si mai sunt destule filmulete, ii intra suta in 6.7s si pe sfertul de mila in jur de 13.5....daca retin bine.Daca trecem la asta nou care din start are mai mult si urca mult mai mult, sau la 2.5T, sa mai fie si ala modat...Te adresezi cu prea mult dispret...
Pe urma cand se discuta despre masini nu numai cifra conteaza, puterea aia scoasa de la motor.Sunt multi factori de apreciat, iar daca unul afirma ca masina lui e ok si e multumit, nu inseamna ca vb aiurea doar pentru ca nu are 170cp.

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Old 13-09-08, 10:13   #362
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bmwm8 esti gratuit in tot ce zici si in tot ce scrii pe forumu asta....nu credeam ca aici este vorba despre masini peste 150 de cai...este vb despre golf,astra si focus.tu,du te frate si scrie pe sectiunea zeii soselelor si lasa ne pe noi astia muritorii de rand in treaba noastra.
si este curios cat de sus ati sarit cand am spus ca motorul ala de 1,7 de pe astra este praf....invit orice posesor de astfel de masina cu acest motor sa facem o cursa mica cu un aveo de 1,2 de 71 cai sa vedem cat este de "jmecher"motoru asta....
io cand spun ca nu am stat prin service-uri cu focusu,nimeni nu ma crede....."n are cum dom'le"...daca spun ca motoarele de 1.7 dti sunt praf(fapt sustinut si de un numar mare de mecanici),nu dom'le ca nu stiu aia...voi va auziti?!?!?!
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Old 13-09-08, 10:35   #363
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gigi... eu am avut astra cu motorul ala si iarta-ma ca iti zic dar imi bateam joc de 320 D , passat tdi 131, etc iar la feeling.. pai era feeling, iar la sound.. eu nu am auzit motor diesel care sa se auda ca benzina asa cum se auzea 1.7 dti! din pacate masina am vandut-o ... daca o aveam acum ma dadeam cu tine si te faceam lejer!
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Old 13-09-08, 12:56   #364
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dolb...da-mi voie sa nu te cred.1.8-ul de pe Mk1 crede-ma ca scoate lejerut sub 10s pe 0-100 si face 200 pe pe ora pe gps.Se simte bine si in 7000 rpm, poti merge pe bord cu a treia la 150-155 pe bord (un 143-145 pe gps).La o liniuta de 400 de metri nici nu ajungi mai sus la nivelul masinilor de care vorbim, tu sigur trebuia sa dai a 4-a.Sper ca stii sa schimbi perfect vitezele, ca si cutia la un WRC, pentru ca eu de exemplu imediat cum am ajuns pe la 90 si ii dau a treia, pina e gata liniuta nu mai trebuie sa schimb (mai mult decat probabil ca termin la un 135 real (un 142-143 pe bord) si pe la 6200rpm .Cu a treia am reusit sa-i arat colegului cu 1.8tdci, 115cp si 280Nm ca nu are repriza de depasire mai buna ca a a mea (porneam de pe la 80-90 in depasire odata, cand era culoar bineinteles si talpa la maxim amandoi).Depasirea se termina la cca 140 pe bord, chestie care o puteam face cu a treia, iar el cu a patra.Porneam din spatele lui , la distanta X si puteam pastra perfect distanta, nu castiga deloc teren.Acuma tu prea vrei sa faci o "zeitate" din acel 1.7.Fiecare masina se compara cu altele in zona ei de putere, nu, n-are rost sa visam cai verzi.Cat despre faptul ca faceai un 320D absolut nu te cred....un Passat....cu noroc si un sofer slab dincolo...poate poate.Un 320d, o masina de 8.2s never.Sa mai scrii si ca "iti bateai joc de el".Sunt curios care de pe topic te crede, s-ar putea face si un poll.Ca pretinzi ca faceai masini de puteri comparabile, ok, ceea ce povestesti tu e mult-mult prea mult.Si eu am avut un trabant tunat care facea un Vectra, ca doar nu ma dor tastele sa scriu asta.Crede-ma ca nu sunt un om vanitos, dar daca as reusi (ipotetic doar vorbind) sa fac un 320d, m-as mai da o data cu el si as face un mic filmulet, sau macar o poza la start si una la finish (s-ar gasi cine sa-mi faca).Nu as rata sa nu am asemenea amintire.Tu ai asa ceva?

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Old 13-09-08, 13:02   #365
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gigi... eu am avut astra cu motorul ala si iarta-ma ca iti zic dar imi bateam joc de 320 D , passat tdi 131, etc iar la feeling.. pai era feeling, iar la sound.. eu nu am auzit motor diesel care sa se auda ca benzina asa cum se auzea 1.7 dti! din pacate masina am vandut-o ... daca o aveam acum ma dadeam cu tine si te faceam lejer!
deja eu ma retrag de aici...........chiar nu mai are rost sa se discute.mai stiu pe unu care se lauda ca isi bate joc de mertz si bmw cu tico ) =)). motor diesel cu sound de benzina. lasatio moarta fratilor.

aici puteti citi de astra, focus si ce mai vreti voi:http://www.whatcar.co.uk/used-car-summary.aspx?rt=2479

The Astra was blessed with fine petrol engines, and our favourite is the 1.6 16v, which revs with a delightful eagerness and pushes the car along at a fair old rate. However, if you're after something more sporty, the 1.8- and 2.2-litre engines that powered the SRi models are well worth a look.

By contrast, the diesels are something of a disappointment. Of course, they have the attraction of better fuel economy, but their lack of performance and refinement mean we'd steer clear of them


The 2005 JD Power survey also echoed these findings, giving the Astra good marks for build quality and mechanical reliability. However, just as the Astra scored lower than its arch rival, the Ford Focus, so Vauxhall as a company finished behind Ford.

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Old 13-09-08, 13:06   #366
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Deja da, e cam luata pe ulei treaba.

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The Astra was blessed with fine petrol engines, and our favourite is the 1.6 16v, which revs with a delightful eagerness and pushes the car along at a fair old rate. However, if you're after something more sporty, the 1.8- and 2.2-litre engines that powered the SRi models are well worth a look.

By contrast, the diesels are something of a disappointment. Of course, they have the attraction of better fuel economy, but their lack of performance and refinement mean we'd steer clear of them


The 2005 JD Power survey also echoed these findings, giving the Astra good marks for build quality and mechanical reliability. However, just as the Astra scored lower than its arch rival, the Ford Focus, so Vauxhall as a company finished behind Ford.
Dar lasa-ma sa ghicesc...sursa ciatata e de doi lei, nu e demna de incredere.

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Old 13-09-08, 14:35   #367
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Ai dreptate, niste prosti, ziaristi de doi lei care habar nu au ce-s alea masini.

Vrei sa vezi care e mai buna, pe forumul asta sunt cei mai mari specialisti din lume.
Votat astfel:
1. Focus, dar pus pe locul unu doar pt ca imi place mai mult ca design.
2. Golf, dar nu e cu absolut nimic mai prejos decat Focusul.
3. Astra, cu toate ca daca in competitie ar mai fi si alte concurente, ar fi mult mai jos.
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aia care o aveam eu era modificata si la motor si la greutate in asa fel incat chiar imi bateam joc de masinile amintite mai sus

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deja eu ma retrag de aici...........chiar nu mai are rost sa se discute.mai stiu pe unu care se lauda ca isi bate joc de mertz si bmw cu tico ) =)). motor diesel cu sound de benzina. lasatio moarta fratilor.

aici puteti citi de astra, focus si ce mai vreti voi:http://www.whatcar.co.uk/used-car-summary.aspx?rt=2479

The Astra was blessed with fine petrol engines, and our favourite is the 1.6 16v, which revs with a delightful eagerness and pushes the car along at a fair old rate. However, if you're after something more sporty, the 1.8- and 2.2-litre engines that powered the SRi models are well worth a look.

By contrast, the diesels are something of a disappointment. Of course, they have the attraction of better fuel economy, but their lack of performance and refinement mean we'd steer clear of them


The 2005 JD Power survey also echoed these findings, giving the Astra good marks for build quality and mechanical reliability. However, just as the Astra scored lower than its arch rival, the Ford Focus, so Vauxhall as a company finished behind Ford.
ti-a trecut un pic prin minte ca VAUXHALL E CEVA TOTAL DIFERIT DE OPEL?
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VW GOLF si OPEL Astra,in general VW si Opel sunt masini pentru mine!!
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ALTU......SHOOT ME!!!
DOLBULE EU ZICEAM DE 1.7 DTI DE 75 CP SI UN AVEO DE 71 DE CP....ORICE DORITOR.....SI DUPA TINE CARE AR FI DIFERENTELE ALEA MARI INTRE VAUXHALL SI OPEL??SAU MAI BINE ZIS,IN FAVOAREA CUI CREZI TU CA AR FI DIFERENTA?!?PTR VAUXHALL?!
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Dolb, cat supararea poti modifica un motor care stock are 75cp si duce masina la un aprox 12.5-13s pentru 0-100?Il imbunatatesti, de acord, reduci din greutatea masinii (dar cu cat, ca cred ca nu te-ai lasat fara scaune inauntru, n-ai taiat din sasiu, deci si weight reductionul asta are o limita.Sa bati o masina de aprox 8.5 si sa-ti bati si joc de ea trebuie sa ai un 0-100 de 7 si ceva, pina in 7.5.Ai avut tu asa ceva?
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Dolb, cat supararea poti modifica un motor care stock are 75cp si duce masina la un aprox 12.5-13s pentru 0-100?Il imbunatatesti, de acord, reduci din greutatea masinii (dar cu cat, ca cred ca nu te-ai lasat fara scaune inauntru, n-ai taiat din sasiu, deci si weight reductionul asta are o limita.Sa bati o masina de aprox 8.5 si sa-ti bati si joc de ea trebuie sa ai un 0-100 de 7 si ceva, pina in 7.5.Ai avut tu asa ceva?
a avut....si cand s a trezit,a cazut din pat......
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a avut....si cand s a trezit,a cazut din pat......

Tare.....direct la tinta


E diferenta intre intre Opel si Vauxhall....a 2 e cu volan pe dreapta
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ha ha .. hai sa radem... eu macar am avut masina care isi demonstra valoarea! tu deocamdata ramai cu 115 cai si nu vei demonstra nimic
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Da de unde...nu prea esti informat.Uite eu cu 115cp fac orice pina la pe la 220cp (de fapt exagerez....pe la 205-210cp...la 220 imi trebuie ceva noroc, putin sa plec mai bine ca el), indiferent ca e diesel, benzinar aspirat sau turbo.De un 320d am glumit, de fapt nu ma tem decat daca e foarte puternic modificat.Dar si atunci....nu stiu...Performanta mea maxima a fost cam 18-20 de masini la drag de o mila cu o Honda Accord 2.4i.Daca insa il tunez asa putin, mai ales cu chipsuri, pot sa trec si la un 3.2fsi sau 3.0tdi.

BMWM8....unde esti, aici vad ca nu te ataci de o "tigaie" de 75cp, cu puteri latente insa inimaginabile si laudata din plin.Sau pur si simplu numai la Ford reactionezi?
In fine...prea mult pe tema asta...e prea copilaresc.

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