BMW M3 vs. Mercedes C 63 AMG - best buy 70000 euro

[SEBASTIAN]

Da am de ceva timp o astfel de masina si nu pot pune filme acum de pe drumuri pulice plus ca eu nu ma tin de filme artistice.
Adu c63amg si il bat din nou.

[Bogdan_mb]

Originally Posted by SEBASTIAN

lasa vrajeala si suna in prima zi cu soare, vin cu m3-ul si scot din el cat stiu eu iar amgc63 sa vina cu ce pilot vrea.
Nu vreau eu sa par enervant insa eu deja merg pe un drum cunoscut ar fi a doua oara cand reusesc sa-l intrec sau cine stie daca voi din taste stiti mai bine, poate aveti dreptate

nu m-am referit la tine , experienta isi spune cuvantul.

Astept un test in care are C63-ul dif. , daca si atunci m3 e peste C63 cu multe secunde 1-0 pt bmw..

[SEBASTIAN]

Aia e masina si cu autoblocant la lungimea si cuplul care-l are ... sunt piloti care dau jos pe anumite masini in anumite curse autoblocandul sau il seteaza ca si cum nu ar fi.
Trebuie sa judecam dupa ceea ce este ce va fi ramane de vazut, mie personal mi se pare f tare c63 si poate are multe capitole castigate cel putin confort insa eu vreau o masina simpla si eficienta iar asta mi-a dat bmw. Daca Audi ar fi facut ceva pe gustul meu dsau Tatra as fi luat de acolo.

[SEBASTIAN]

poze, mai mult nu am

[dan_m3]

fratzilor,
dar mai lasati datele technice
si lasati strada sa vb.

la o liniutza este C63 intradevar ceva mai tare,...
oricum depinde de sofer,...

atita timp cit un M3 face praf si pulbere un carrera s 997 atit pe hockenheim, cit si pe nürburgring si chiar la 0-200-0 Km/h si "spulbera" un gallardo in slalom (!!), ...

lasati hirtia, ca este maculatura,...

aaa,...

am mentionat ca un M3 face varza si un viper SRT-10, un mirtzan CLK AMG DTM si un Ferrari 599 GTB in slalom ???

[C63 AMG]

Originally Posted by SEBASTIAN

Trebuie sa judecam dupa ceea ce este ce va fi ramane de vazut, mie personal mi se pare f tare c63 si poate are multe capitole castigate cel putin confort insa eu vreau o masina simpla si eficienta iar asta mi-a dat bmw. Daca Audi ar fi facut ceva pe gustul meu dsau Tatra as fi luat de acolo.

Hmm te-ai dat tu personal cu c63 de zici ca e mai bun la capitolul confort ? Nu de alta dar absolut toate revistele pe care le-am citit spun ca e tocmai invers (si anume ca e varza la confort si ca e net inferior chiar si m3-ului la acest capitol). Si am precizat asta in nenumarate randuri, ma mir totusi cum de faci tu o asemenea afirmatie...

Originally Posted by vacaroz

hehe... ce bine suna o sa`l bati si pe asta si pe urma o sa mai apara altul... ce o sa faci? nu are rost sa te pui la mintea orcui e incapatanat si traieste in lumea lui

Pai si in ce lume ai vrea sa traiesc ? In lumea ta ?
Ciudat totusi cum Sebastian cu al sau m3 reuseste sa bata pe banda rulanta amg-ul pe cand diversi baieti de la publicatii de specialitate (si nu ma refer aici la topgear) oricat ar incerca nu reusesc sa faca acest lucru...asta e probabil ca sunt eu mai incapatanat de felul meu dar prefer sa le dau lor crezare decat unui individ oarecare de pe un forum care nu aduce absolut nici o dovada in sprijinul afirmatiilor sale..

[vali-tgm]

testul facut de Top Gear l-a vazut cineva ? c63 amg - M3 - RS4

[ESPinoza]

Originally Posted by SEBASTIAN

poze, mai mult nu am

nu sunt eu fan bmw dar asta e foarte frumos.. sa ai parte de el pe deplin

[SEBASTIAN]

multumesc!

[dan_m3]

Originally Posted by SEBASTIAN

poze, mai mult nu am

hahaha,
un m3 cu numere de germania de vama,...
atita tot.

putea sa fotografieze oricine in orice parcare !!

[SEBASTIAN]

ia verifica tu numerele alea in germania si vezi ca esti ... rau voitor

[MarcCorneliu]

Originally Posted by dan_m3

hahaha,
un m3 cu numere de germania de vama,...
atita tot.

putea sa fotografieze oricine in orice parcare !!

Se vede ca`i in Romania Noroc la ea, ai facut alegerea perfecta

[C63 AMG]

Ati vazut noul motor de la bmw ? Cateva date:

Displacing 4.4 liters, the new V8 engine with Twin Turbo technology and direct gasoline injection (High Precision Injection) develops maximum output of 408 hp throughout a broad range of engine speed from 5,500 and 6,400 rpm, and 600 Nm (443 ft/lbs.) of torque over a wide range of between 1,800 and 4,500 rpm.

The all-aluminum V8 engine developed by BMW offers all the qualities typical of an eight-cylinder in incomparably sporting style. In practice, this means a combination of superior torque at low engine speeds with an ongoing surge of power and performance up to the higher speed range.

The power and performance characteristics of the new V8 result to a large extent from Twin Turbo technology, the use of two turbochargers for the first time on an eight-cylinder engine serving to boost both engine output and torque with maximum efficiency. Each of the two turbochargers supplies compressed air to four cylinders at a time, ensuring particular spontaneity and a direct reaction to the gas pedal.

As with the straight-six featuring Twin Turbo technology, the "turbo lag" typical of a turbocharged engine with conventional technology, that is the time until the turbocharger builds up its boost, is virtually eliminated through the combination of two small turbos and the direct injection calibration.

A further advantage is that the engine revs up smoothly, maintaining its high torque consistently throughout an unusually broad range of engine speed. In its power and performance characteristics, therefore, the engine is comparable to a significantly larger normal-aspirated engine while offering the advantage of much lower weight and reduced package size.

Not only are the dimensions and weight of the new V8 unusually modest, but the fuel consumption is also exceptionally low for an engine of this caliber. A significant factor contributing to the superior fuel economy is double-VANOS infinite camshaft management, a technology characteristic of BMW engines. Indeed, this technology is also one of the reasons why the V8 - over and above its superior fuel economy - develops exceptionally high torque from low engine speeds.

The new V8 engine offers the exclusive combination of Twin Turbo technology and High Precision Injection for incomparable power and performance, plus a standard of economy quite unique in comparison with the engine's dynamic driving potential.

This characteristic of BMW's Twin Turbo gasoline engines is unique world-over and offers an exceptionally high standard of power and flexibility on the road. In practice, this allows the driver to use the superior torque of the engine right from the start when accelerating, with engine power then remaining consistent over a wide speed range.

The exceptional dynamism of the engine is further enhanced by its high compression ratio, again an advantage made possible by High Precision Injection: With the fuel/air mixture being cooled as a result of direct injection, the compression ratio can be increased to a higher level than on a turbo-charged engine with intake manifold injection. Engine efficiency is improved accordingly, offering more power on less fuel.

BMW's most powerful V8 offers a much higher standard of fuel economy and, thanks to its all-aluminum crankcase, is much lighter.

Am sarit unele pasaje care nu mi s-au parut relevante. Cert e ca din finalul comunicatului de presa (si nu numai finalul) reiese ca motorul asta e cel mai puternic V8 produs de bmw EVER. Si nu cred ca se refera la putere ci la cuplu (pentru ca daca stam sa ne gandim V8-ul din M3 are vreo 6 cai in plus). Vroiam sa stiu voi ce parere aveti de acest motor. Eu cred ca daca-l pun pe seria 3 n-o sa mai vrea nimeni sa-si ia m3

[SEBASTIAN]

este f bun si este pecial pt cuplu, vaechipa x5 si x6

[C63 AMG]

Si seria 5