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Old 17-05-16, 13:54   #3196
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da, este mai greu la audi.. la A4 aprox 100 kg cantareste Quattro si asta pt ca in configuratie fwd, audi are doar planetarele fata.
la awd se adauga cardanul, tot ce inseeamna complicatiile pt puntea spate, etc.
la bmw, cardanul, orice este in spate exista, trebuiesc conectate doar rotile fata iar asta este mai simplu dpdv kg.
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Old 17-05-16, 16:21   #3197
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Vara asta BMW va aduce 2 noi motorizari pe seria 1/2, 130i/230i respectiv 140i/240i cu valori de 252 hp si 350Nm, respectiv 340 hp / 500 Nm. Tractiunea ramane ca si pana acuma rwd sau optional awd. Interesant ca cel din urma are cuplul mai mare ca al M2-ului (cel putin pe hartie), sunt curios daca o sa afecteze vanzarile diviziei M.
4.2 sec 0-100 km/h pentru 240i aut xdrive sună interesant

1800 kg mi se pare enorm ..

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Old 17-05-16, 17:17   #3198
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Cred ca 0-60 mph in 4.2s si 4.4s pt sprintul pana la 100 km/h, articolul a aparut intai pt SUA si probabil ca multi l-au adaptat gresit.

La A4, 1815kg e cam multicel, dar masina a crescut in dimensiuni si cara si mai multa tehnologie, iar ca break isi face mai bine treaba, nu e poate asa de dinamica, dar e mica diferenta si nu prea conteaza in clasa asta, o sa se vanda ca painea calda. Eu ma intreb cat o sa cantareasca viitorul RS4, in schimb:

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Old 17-05-16, 17:53   #3199
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Nu stiu daca am inteles eu bine, dar seria 3 avea in test 60 kg in minus? Daca da, apoi pare normal tinand cont de diferentele de dimensiuni intre A4 si serie 3.
Cred ca rs4 va fi tot pe la 1800kg pt ca are 3 litri benzina iar masina din testul autobild are 3 diesel..motorul pe benzina fiind mai usor. Cu ceva carbon, frane ceramice, va compensa echipamentul standard in plus.

Faza este ca sunt foarte importante optionalele de pe o masina. Autobild spunea ceva de sunet 3d pt audi, iar asta inseamna ca avea bang&olufsen..vreo 16 difuzoare adica(inslusiv un subwoofer) si un super amplificator in portbagaj. Daca seria 3 avea instalatis audio standard, de acolo apar aproape 50kg.
Pare paradoxal, insa daca iti faci masina bine echipata, poti adauga si 100kg
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in Romania BMW 330d touring xdrive 1755 kg Audi A4 3.0 TDI Quattro 1770 kg
Unlord am găsit peste tot 0-62 mph doar ca nu apar cifrele pentru 240 i aut xdrive ci doar pentru manual 4.4 sec

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Old 19-05-16, 23:43   #3201
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Unlord am găsit peste tot 0-62 mph doar ca nu apar cifrele pentru 240 i aut xdrive ci doar pentru manual 4.4 sec
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Old 20-05-16, 08:17   #3202
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mi se pare ca intra grav pe teritoriul lui m2
340cp si 500nm vs 370cp si 465nm..probabil vor sa faca un upgrade sanatos la M2 si sa il duca la 400cp si minim 500Nm
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Test cu bazele din gama medie de la Autobild.ro: Volkswagen Passat 1.4 TSI ACT, Audi A4 1.4, TFSI Mercedes C 180, BMW 318i

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Bentley Bentayga vs. Tesla Model X:
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Old 02-06-16, 21:09   #3207
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Ce nebunie de replica

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Old 03-06-16, 08:17   #3208
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A aparut si A5-ul, evolutie in loc de revolutie, dar una peste alta, nu e rau deloc: http://www.topspeed.com/cars/audi/20...-ar152388.html

p.s. am gasit imagini si cu S5: http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...-2018-s5-coupe

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Pare mai mult un facelift..
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Old 03-06-16, 12:24   #3210
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nu ma incanta deloc in poze. nici a4 nu a facut-o...iar in realitate nu arata bine decat daca este full la exterior, cu s-line, faruri led, jante de 18 si culoare cum trebuie.
la interior mi se par masinile astea super reusite, cu o calitate a executiei desavarsita.
nici q7 nu arata bine in poze, insa in realitate e mult mai ok.

mi se pare super tare upgrade-ul la 3.0tdi..286cp si 620NM.
era loc suficient pt 2.0tdi 240cp si 500nm intre 190cp si 286cp, dar ei in continuare merg cu variant detunata de 3 litri si 218cp..de rahat mi se pare.
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