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Old 05-05-04, 08:58   #1
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Salutari! Am si eu o intrebare: am un tub de la Alpine (nu stiu dimensiunea pe dinafara dar la nevoie il pot masura), cel cu scris albastru. E cumparat acum vreo 2 ani si _pe-atunci cand eram mai bata decat sunt acum_ mi l-au vandut ca fiind cu membrana cu kevlar&putere maxima 6oow. Acum intrebarea: ce putere maxima pot sa \"bag\" in el fara sa-l prajesc? Adik sa nu fie nici un risc. Acum am _instalat tot la si de Alpine_ statie 2x5o bridged - adik 13ow. Multumesc!
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Old 05-05-04, 11:53   #2
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saluty, parerea mea e sa nu bagi mai mult de 150W RMS in el ca faci ce am facut io la tm. Bafta
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Old 06-05-04, 09:22   #3
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da tu mai multe detalii despre el si vorbim dup-aia

asa am si yo un difuzor - cat pot sa bag sa nu-l prajesc?

doi insi intr-un copac - bicicleta a cui era?

da detalii!!!
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Old 06-05-04, 19:06   #4
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Ce detalii k nu ma prea pricep...
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Old 06-05-04, 22:45   #5
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Bogdane eu am bagat pe tubul meu de 400w Infinity 250w rms si nu a patit nmk decat k atunci cand l-am scos era calda protectia de la difuzor dar sunt niste stati destul de bune JBL 400w pe la 4.000.000 si eu zic k ti-ar fi destui.Dak vrei da-mi un pm si iti zic unde e magazinu.Dak vrei poti sa probezi in magazin tubu tau pe mai multe statii si sa vezi pe kare iti place mai mult cum se aude.Respekt
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Old 07-05-04, 09:36   #6
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MC Mate ..... chiar trebuiau atatea rapunsuri !!!?

Moderatorii ...... mai stergeti fratilor din astea !!
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Old 07-05-04, 09:50   #7
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Vroia sa se faca si el bine auzit :P :P

Putin OffTopic... merita o statie 2x120W 50 de euro?
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Old 07-05-04, 16:20   #8
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am bagat 300W non rms intr-un infinity de300W rms si rupe. Dar se aude mai incet ca atunci cand infinity`u de 300W era pusa pe o statie JBL de 600W (cam 150 rms)
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Old 08-05-04, 18:55   #9
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Bogdane eu am bagat pe tubul meu de 400w Infinity 250w rms si nu a patit nmk decat k atunci cand l-am scos era calda protectia de la difuzor dar sunt niste stati destul de bune JBL 400w pe la 4.000.000 si eu zic k ti-ar fi destui.Dak vrei da-mi un pm si iti zic unde e magazinu.Dak vrei poti sa probezi in magazin tubu tau pe mai multe statii si sa vezi pe kare iti place mai mult cum se aude.Respekt
Cred k asa am sa fac - iau tubul in brate si ma duc cu el la magazin sa vad ce-mi place...
Si zi-mi si mie de magazinul ala. (Stiu si eu unul/mai multe - langa Petrom-ul de la inceputul Drumului Taberei, in targul Vitan, Ghencea, etc)
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Old 09-05-04, 00:17   #10
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Daca sti strada Drumul Sarii.Este undeva prin Militari.Acolo este un magazin Kenwood kare se ocupa numai cu instalatii de sunet pt masina.Au si service pt montat,au de toate.Si in capatul strazii mai este un magazin de tuning dak tot esti pe acolo.Respekt

P.S. Adresa completa: Alarm Service '96 Str. Drumul Sarii nr. 98.De acolo mi-am luat eu tubul
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Old 10-05-04, 01:20   #11
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Daca sti strada Drumul Sarii.Este undeva prin Militari
Stiu unde e - am si scris - la inceputul Drumului Taberei -> nu e-n Militari Si in + nu e de Kenwood (nu suport firma :P ) ci de DE TOATE!!!
Oricum, mersi de info!
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Old 10-05-04, 13:37   #12
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Daca e Alpine \"albastru\" 600 w inseamna ca este SWS - 1241 R . In atasament am pus si o poza sa vezi daca este unul si acelasi .
Mai jos ai specificatiile sub-ului . Eu unul am 2 SWR - 1241 R ( scrie 1000 w dar RMS sunt doar 300 W )si am pe unul o statie mrd m300 care scoate 1x 300 W RMS si merge unsa fara probleme .
Concluzia : la al tau MAXIM 200 W RMS dar e preferabil sa il lasi undeva la 180 w input rms power .

Specs:
General-Subwoofers

Diaphragm Material : Kevlar Reinforced Pulp
Magnetic Weight : 64oz.
Mounting Depth (top mount) : 164mm (6-1/2\")
Mounting Diameter (top mount) : 274mm (10-3/4\")
Recommended Box Types : Sealed/Bandpass
Recommended Sealed Box Volume : 0.8 – 1.5 cu. ft.
Spider Material : Nomex
Voice Coil Diameter : 38mm
Power Handling

Power Handling Capacity (Peak) : 600W
Power Handling Capacity (RMS) : 200W
Thiel Small Parameters

Coil Height (Hvc) : 32.6mm
Cone Area (Sd) : 490.87 sq. cm
D.C.Coil Resistance (Re) : 3.6ohm
Electrical Q (Qes) : 0.60
Equivalent Suspension Stiffness (Vas) : 65 liters(2.3cu.ft.)
Free Air Resonance (Fs) : 30Hz
Frequency Response : 26Hz - 1kHz
Gap Height (Hag) : 10mm
Impedance (Nominal) : 4 ohm
Inductance (Le) : 1.85mH at 1kHz (0.65mH at 20kHz)
Linear Excursion (X linear) : 11.3mm
Maximum Excursion (X peak) : 22.6mm
Mechanical Excursion (Peak-to-Peak) : 42mm
Mechanical Q (Qms) : 9.26
Sensitivity : 89 dB/W/M
Total Loudspeaker Q (Qts) : 0.57
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Old 10-05-04, 13:51   #13
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Daca te uiti la specificatii tu ai la recomandari cutie \"sealed \" - fara bass reflex ( presupun ca tubul tau are bass reflex ) sau \"bandpass\" - care este un hibrid intre sealed si bass-reflex - difuzorul este intr-o incinta sealed dar \" bate \" in al 2-lea compartiment care are bass - reflex .
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Old 11-05-04, 10:06   #14
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Asta-i! Si da, este intr-un tub \"bass reflex\" - asa mi l-au vandut chiar ei...Conform specificatiilor ar trebui sa-l bag intr-o cutie fara \"reflex\"??
La statii cum aflu watii RMS? Acum am statie tot de la ei (Alpine) - cea mai slaba - 2x5ow, 1x13ow. Astia-s RMS sau nu??

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Old 11-05-04, 12:53   #15
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Uita-te pe statie cam ce scrie pe ea .
Cred ca e MRV-T130 .

Amplifier Type Dual Channel

Bass Boost With Bass Boost

Bridgable Bridgable

Power Output


RMS Power at 2 Ohms 65 W x 2

RMS Power at 4 Ohms 50 W x 2

Performance


Frequency Response 10 Hz - 50000 Hz

Low - Pass Frequency 80 Hz - 80 Hz

Signal to Noise Ratio 100 dB

Bass Boost Frequency 50 Hz

THD at Rated RMS Power .08 %

Dimensions


Width 9 in.

Depth 6.75 in.

Height 2.25 in.

Other Features


Input Voltage 11 volt

MOSFET amp Yes

Deci scoate 1x130 W la 2 Ohm . Trebuie sa te uiti daca difuzorul tau e pe 2 ohm ( poate sa aiba 2 bobinaje pe 4 ohm si atunci le pui o brida intre ele si tot le 2 ohm ajungi ) - cel mai usor masoara ca sa vezi .
Cu un aparat de masura rezolvi imediat dilema .
Daca dif-ul tau e pe 4 ohm , in punte ( briged ) scoate numai 100 W ( de unde ma cam face sa cred ca de aia ti-a pus cutia cu bass reflex ca sa ai \"bubuiala\" mai mare dar la claritate pierzi sigur ) .
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