02-07-04, 10:57
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Originally Posted by \"zetemte\"
Intrebare.
Cumpar masina in Polonia (deci EU). Platesc 15 000 Euro, e second hand si e Honda (produs in Japonia). Cat trebuie sa platesc la vama cand iau ea in Romania?
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Zetemte, conteaza doar din ce an e masina si ce capacitate are motorul... Nu conteaza cat ai dat tu pe ea in Polonia... Ai linkurile mai sus, uita-te in tabel si vezi cat ai de plata in functie de valoarea in vama... Cand o scoti din UE incearca sa recuperezi TVA-ul, pentru ca aici oricum il mai platesti o data.
In vama romaneasca ai de plata TVA, acciza pentru autotursm rulat si taxe vamale (care sunt 0 daca masina e produsa in UE si ai si dovada aferenta)...pentru Honda produsa in Japonia taxele vamale sunt vreo 30% parca... 30% din valoarea autoturismului in vama, nu din valoarea de pe actul de vanzare cumparare.
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02-07-04, 11:02
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Originally Posted by \"grandpa\"
Am si eu o intrebare legata de masinile sh din alte tari .
Am vazut pe autohus.de la pret la masini ceva de genu` :
EURO 13.850,- (Inland)
EURO 11.940,- (Export)
Deci daca o cumpar de acolo , si vreau sa o aduc in tara , platesc doar 11 mii ? sau platesc 13850 , platesc vama , platesc accize , etc , si dupa aceea , cand am dovada ca am adus-o in tara ma duc iar in germania si imi iau 2000 euro inapoi ?
Explicati-mi si mie va rog cum sta treaba .
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Preturile alea diferite in autohaus inseamna ca e vorba de o masina la care se poate recupera VAT-ul daca o scoti din UE... Si e specificat pentru ca nu la toate se poate primi inapoi...
Tu platesti 13.850, normal, pentru ca firma e obligata sa plateasca VAT-ul la stat... si tu recuperezi VAT (16%) la iesirea din spatiul UE, adica acuma in Ungaria (inainte era Austria)... recuperarea poti sa o faci si cand aduci masina in tara, pe drum (dar ai de asteptat cateva ore)...
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02-07-04, 12:15
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e annul 2000 si 1.8 motor
Nu inceleg exact aceste tabele.
Am gasit, ca trebuie sa platesc 4,5% pe vama si restul nu inceleg 
E din cauza limbi ... nu stiu romana foarte bine 
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02-07-04, 12:27
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double post - please delete :P
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02-07-04, 12:28
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19% TVA, 4,5% accize, 30% taxe vamale... sau cam pe acolo...
Toate astea se calculeaza relativ la valoarea in vama, care pentru 1701->1800 cmc e 6.155 sau 5.352 Euro (depinde in ce luna din 2000 e produsa - daca a implinit deja 4 ani e 5300, daca nu e 6100)
Ce masina vrei sa aduci? Dupa pret, as zice ca un Prelude, nu ?
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02-07-04, 13:24
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@th1nk3r Mersi mult , dar mai am o nelamurire ... dupa ce scoti masina din UE , cine iti da banii inapoi ? aia de la vama ?
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02-07-04, 13:52
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DEci toate taxe care trebuie sa platesc sunt ~6 000 Euro  
Upsssss ... Credeam ca mai putin 
Dar eu sunt starin, poate e differit cu mine?
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02-07-04, 14:09
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grandpa, este un birou de recuperari VAT la vama, vezi topicul ala de pe autoshow unde povesteste omul...
zetemte: i'll try to explain it in English, maybe you'll understand better this way... it doesn't go as high as 6000 Euro. 30+4,5+19=53,5% from the Value at the Border (or Value in Customs - or however it is translated)
At the Romanian customs, the car has a fixed value, depending only on the engine capacity and year of production, check out the link on the previous page with \"valoarea autoturismelor in vama\". Even if you pay 20.000 or 50.000 Euro in Poland for the car, in Romania you pay taxes for the value in the table..
53,5% * 6100 it's about 3200 Euro...
The good part is, if the car has recoverable VAT and you buy it for, let's say, 13.000 Euro net value + 16% VAT = 15.000 Euro, you recover 2000 Euro at the UE border and that means you only pay another 1200 Euro in Romania from your own pocket. However, recovering VAT is pretty tricky, and does not apply to all vehicles, you need to ask the car dealer where you buy the car from....
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02-07-04, 14:22
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BIG Thanks man, now I do understand
My romanian is still at elementary level  But I keep on learning  But when it comes complicated vocabulary I get lost easily
Ok ... so the car will have the value 6100 Euro at the border. I will have to pay 50% taxes, around 3000 Euro tops.
The car is second hand, so there won't be any car dealer, because I'm gonna buy it from a guy. Can I still use the VAT trick?
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02-07-04, 14:34
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La noi inca e bine, sa vedeti ce taxe vamale sunt in tarile arabe, cu tot cu accize ajung la 200%!!!!Acolo o SN costa cam 15-16.000$, iar un Cielo ajunge si la 30.000$! Cand am auzit cat a dat unu' pe un Cielo acolo era sa cad pe jos...chiar nu inteleg de ce baga taxele astea acolo. La noi sunt la un nivel decent zic eu, pe langa alte tari, si o sa mai scada.
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02-07-04, 14:41
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If you pay VAT, you can recover it some times... but when you buy from a person not a firm/commercial agent, VAT does not apply to the transaction.
The whole idea is: if you pay 15.000 to a car dealer, he has to pay the 2.000 VAT to the government... and they give it back to you at the border because it you will pay it again in the country where you use the car. But buying from a person not a dealer means there is no VAT involved in the transaction so there is nothing for them to return to you...
small economic derailment: the VAT for that car was payed when he bought the car, so the government does not care if he sells it again as used... every product gets taxed only once... For example in a country there is only one official importer of Subaru. They buy the cars from Japan, pay VAT at the border for the import, then sell it to a local dealer, they pay VAT also, the importer gets VAT back in tax returns, the dealer sells it to you, they also recover VAT and you end up with paying the tax in the end. VAT is a tax for the final consumer, so after it is payed, the government does not care if you sell the car further... this tax does not apply to person2person transactions. Every euro you pay for the car goes to the previous owner...
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Bogdan, tarile arabe au o economie bazata pe exploatarea resurselor naturale (si astea se termina, nu dureaza o vesnicie), de aceea au un protectionism foarte ridicat cu privire la importuri... Daca ridica foarte mult taxele, unii producatori constata ca e mai profitabil sa investeasca in tarile alea ca productia sa se faca local si sa nu se mai aplice toate taxele din vama, deci la consumatorul final ajung produse mai ieftine si se vand mai multe bucati... asa le cresc vanzarile investitorilor si in acelasi timp respectivele tari au avantajul ca isi dezvolta sectorul de productie, avand in vedere ca sectorul extractiv o sa ramana fara material de extras in urmatorii 100-150 de ani in cel mai fericit caz...
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02-07-04, 14:54
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I got it, thanks.
Unfortunetly there won't be any VAT included. So it will be around 18 000 Euro in the end or less.
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02-03-06, 17:30
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import auto sh
pt un hyunday coupe din 2000,cu motor da 2000(ca ala da 1,6 nu e euro 3.sau asa stiu io) cam cat ar fi taxele da adus in tara??tva 19% si accize 9% care ar insemna cam 1500e.gresesc cu ceva in calcule sau imi scapa ceva???
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02-03-06, 17:36
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am eu o foaie cu toate calculate din anul 2000 pana in 2005 benzina si motorina pe toate capacitatile dar este in laptop si el este la reparat sper sa vina in cateva zile
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02-03-06, 17:37
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