21-12-11, 12:38
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#61
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Stage 5
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Re: Proiect old school XF Falcon / Granada
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Originally Posted by XFJET
ce versiune de EEC? IV?
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Nu stiu exact, dar ma pot uita maine.
Last edited by NWZeu; 23-12-11 at 18:19.
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21-12-11, 12:43
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#62
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Stage 3
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Re: Proiect old school XF Falcon / Granada
Uitate
daca e EEC IV esti in luck
multe forduri la noi au mers pe EEC IV si baietii de aici au atacat ECU si au reusit sa il "sparga"
vezi daca pin'uile sun la fel ca la noi
http://www.fordmods.com/documents.php?d=41
daca vrei pot sa itzi trimit un ECU de aici, e plin de ele, si ai si capabilitatea de a il programa cum vrei tu cu http://www.tiperformance.com.au/products.html
suna bestial cu supercharger on top! I highly approve!
plus ai bonus points pentru stickerul de pe geamul din spate
mai este o companie in US se chiama Tweecer care au lucrat mult cu EEC IV si EEC V, te poti uita si la ce ofera ei
Last edited by XFJET; 21-12-11 at 12:51.
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21-12-11, 12:54
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#63
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Stage 5
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Re: Proiect old school XF Falcon / Granada
Merci pt aprecieri.
O sa verific treaba cu ECU. Sper sa fie la fel
Problema cu ECU meu este ca se reseteaza daca masina sta nepornita mai mult timp, pt ca ECU nu are "+" permanent, astfel ca merge destul de rau pana se incalzeste si se reprogrameaza din nou.
Problema e mai acum iarna, pt ca intra socul automat si se ineaca f usor.
Last edited by NWZeu; 23-12-11 at 18:21.
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21-12-11, 12:59
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#64
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Stage 3
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Re: Proiect old school XF Falcon / Granada
chiar daca nu e la fel ai diagrama si vezi ce ii trebuie dar EEC sunt cam la fel, vezi ca Tweecer din US au poate exact ce iti trebuie, da un google
mda, trebuie sa ii lasi un keep alive de 12volti dar tre sa gasesti pin'ul de la ECU care trebuie, exact asa face si EEC la forduri la noi daca ramane fara baterie, trebuie cam 20km pana se regleaza singur
Last edited by NWZeu; 23-12-11 at 18:21.
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24-12-11, 23:25
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#65
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Stage 2
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Re: Proiect old school XF Falcon / Granada
@ Xdriver - ai EEC IV cu siguranta.
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26-12-11, 16:12
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#66
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Re: Proiect old school XF Falcon / Granada
Se pare ca am noroc si intr-adevar am EEC IV.
Acum mai ramane sa vedem cum facem mai departe
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26-12-11, 16:14
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#67
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Stage 3
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Re: Proiect old school XF Falcon / Granada
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Originally Posted by Xdriver
Se pare ca am noroc si intr-adevar am EEC IV.
Acum mai ramane sa vedem cum facem mai departe
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well, Tweecer e o solutie sau poti face o poza cu mufa de la ECU si posteaza aici si ma uit sa vad daca e ca la noi
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26-12-11, 16:17
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#68
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Re: Proiect old school XF Falcon / Granada
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Originally Posted by XFJET
well, Tweecer e o solutie sau poti face o poza cu mufa de la ECU si posteaza aici si ma uit sa vad daca e ca la noi
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Nu ai Autodata? Acolo poti vedea toate datele.
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26-12-11, 16:22
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#69
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Stage 3
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Re: Proiect old school XF Falcon / Granada
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Originally Posted by Xdriver
Nu ai Autodata? Acolo poti vedea toate datele.
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il am dar doar pentru masinile de aici si e la workshop, nu cred ca trec pe acolo pana cam dupa anu nou...
Asta cred ca e al tau
Code:
EEC-IV Wiring Information
Pin No Wire Colour Purpose Voltage
1 Not Used
2 Not used
3 Not Used
4 Not Used
5 Not Used
6 Not Used
7 Engine Coolant Temp 20*C-3.1V, 40*C-2.2V, 100*C-0.5V
8 Not Used
9 Not Used
10 Airconditioning Clutch On 0V Aircon Off, 12V Aircon On
11 Not Used
12 Not Used
13 Not Used
14 Not Used
15 Not Used
16 Ground 0V
17 Self Test Output (STO) PWM signal 0V-12V
18 Not Used
19 Not Used
20 Case Ground 0V
21 Idle Speed Control +8V to +11V Engine Running
22 Fuel Pump Control +12V Ignition On
23 Knock Sensor (Unleaded Only) +3V Engine Running
24 Not Used
25 Intake Air Temperature Sensor 0*C 3.9V, 20*C 3,1V, 40*C 2.2V
26 Sensor Reference Voltage +5V
27 Air Flow Sensor (Unleaded Only) Variable Voltage
28 Not Used
29 Not Used
30 Transmission Position Neutral 0V-0.1V, In gear 5Volts
31 Canister Purge 8V-10V with Engine Running
32 Not Used
33 EGR Solenoid (Unleaded) Voltage Pulse @ 1800 RPM
34 Data Output Link PWM Data
35 Canister Purge Solenoid (Unleaded) Voltage Pulse when Engine Running
35 EGR Vent Solenoid (leaded) Voltage Pulse when Engine Running @ 1800RPM
36 SPOUT (Spark Output) Ignition 7V average with Engine Running
37 Ignition Power 12V with Ignition On
38 Not Used
39 Not Used
40 Ground 0Volts
41 Not Used
42 Not Used
43 Air Flow Sensor (Leaded Only) Variable Voltage
44 Not Used
45 Not Used
46 Signal Ground 0Volts
47 Throttle Position Sensor 0.7V closed, 4.5V WOT (Wide Open)
48 Self Test Input 0Volts for Self Test, 12V Normal operation
49 Not Used
50 Not Used
51 Not Used
52 EGR Vent Solenoid (Unleaded) Voltage Pulse @ 1800 RPM
53 Not Used
54 EGR Vent Solenoid (leaded) Voltage Pulse @ 1800 RPM
55 Not Used
56 PIP Profile Ignition Pick Up 0V - 12V on Ignition PIP
57 Ignition Power 0Volts Off, 12V Ignition On
58 Fuel Injection Ignition Bank 1,3,5 PWM On Fuel Injection
59 Fuel Injection Ignition Bank 2,4,6 0Volts Off, 12V On
60 Ground 0Volts
si asta e la noi
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Pin No Wire Colour Purpose Voltage
1 Keep Alive Power Battery +12V
2 Not used
3 Vehicle Speed Sensor 10V Square wave when driving
4 Smartlock Immobilisation Signal 0V-12V Bus Signal
5 Ignition Power 12V with Ignition On
6 Not Used
7 Engine Coolant Temp 20*C-3.1V, 40*C-2.2V, 100*C-0.5V
8 Not Used
9 Not Used
10 Airconditioning Clutch On 12V Aircon On, 0V Aircon Off
11 Trans Lock Up solenoid (S7) 12V Lockup
12 Economy Indicator Lamp 0V Power Lamp On
13 Not Used
14 Transmission Solenoid (S6) 12V Ignition On
15 Not Used
16 Ground 0V
17 Self Test Output (STO) PWM signal 0V-12V
18 Not Used
19 Not Used
20 Case Ground 0V
21 Idle Speed Control +8V to +11V Engine Running
22 Fuel Pump Control 0V-1V Engine Running
23 Not Used
24 Not Used
25 Intake Air Temperature Sensor 0*C 3.9V, 20*C 3,1V, 40*C 2.2V
26 Sensor Reference Voltage +5Volt output
27 Auto Trans Power/Econ Switch Economy 12V, Power 0V
28 Power Steering Pressure Switch 0V No Load, 12V Steering Load
29 HEGO (Oxygen Sensor) Input 0.1V - 0.8V with Engine Running
30 Transmission Position [p]3.8V-4.2V, [R]3.3V-3.7V, [N]2.8V-3.2V, [D]2.3V-2.7V, [3]1.8V-2.2V, [2]1.3V-1.7V, [1]0.8V-1.2V
Manual Transmission, Neutral 0V-0.1V, In gear 5Volts
31 Canister Purge 8V-10V with Engine Running @2200RPM for 20Sec
32 Recirculation Solenoid 12V Outside Air, Recirc 1.0V
33 Electric Fan 2 Output Relay 2 & 3 Off 12V, Relay 2 & 3 On 0V
34 Data Output Link PWM Data for trip computer
35 Automatic Transmission Solenoid (S3) 0V-12V
36 SPOUT (Spark Output) Ignition 7V average with Engine Running
37 Ignition Power 12V with Ignition On
38 Auto Trans Variable Pressure Solenoid (S5) 10V - 14V with Engine Running
39 Not Used
40 Ground 0Volts
41 Not Used
42 Transmission Oil Temp 20*C-3.5V, Normal Op Temp 1.0-3.6V
43 A/C Evaporator Air Temp 20*C 1.5V-2.0V
44 Not Used
45 MAP Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor Engine Running 100Hz - 105Hz
46 Signal Ground 0Volts
47 Throttle Position Sensor 0.7V closed, 4.5V WOT (Wide Open)
48 Self Test Input 0Volts for Self Test, 5V Normal operation
49 HEGO Ground 0Volts
50 Not Used
51 Auto Trans Gear Select Solenoid (S1) 0Volts off, 12V On
52 Auto Trans Gear Select Solenoid (S1) 0Volts off, 12V On
53 Not Used
54 A/C Relay 0Volts A/C On, 12Volts A/C Off
55 Automatic Transmission Solenoid (S4) 0Volts Off, 12V On
56 PIP Profile Ignition Pick Up 0V - 12V on Ignition PIP
57 Ignition Power 0Volts Off, 12V Ignition On
58 Fuel Injection Ignition Bank 1,3,5 PWM On Fuel Injection
59 Fuel Injection Ignition Bank 2,4,6 0Volts Off, 12V On
60 Ground 0Volts
am pus de V8 inainte, scuze
ma uit acu la diferenta
Last edited by XFJET; 26-12-11 at 16:42.
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26-12-11, 16:30
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#70
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Stage 3
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Re: Proiect old school XF Falcon / Granada
deci nu sunt diferente mari ....
asta e de la cutie automata deci tot ce depinde de cutie automata poti sa ignori, la fel si de smartlock, astea pot fii scoase afara cu software
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26-12-11, 16:46
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#71
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Stage 3
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Re: Proiect old school XF Falcon / Granada
poate mai bune e asta, EEC V (versiune noua) la noi e pe EL falcon, are Knock sensor
Code:
EEC-V Wiring Information
Pin No Wire Colour Purpose Voltage
1 Keep Alive Power Battery +12V
2 Not used
3 Vehicle Speed Sensor 10V Square wave when driving
4 Smartlock Immobilisation Signal 0V-12V Bus Signal
5 Ignition Power 12V with Ignition On
6 Not Used
7 Engine Coolant Temp 20*C-3.1V, 40*C-2.2V, 100*C-0.5V
8 Fuel Select (Tickford LPG Models Only) Petrol >9Volts, LPG 0Volts
9 Not Used
10 Airconditioning Clutch On 12V Aircon On, 0V Aircon Off
11 Trans Lock Up solenoid (S7) 12V Lockup
12 Economy Indicator Lamp 0V Economy Lamp On
13 LPG Cut Off Solenoid 0V LPG On, 12V LPG Off
14 Transmission Solenoid (S6) 12V Ignition On
15 Broadband Manifold <3800RPM 0V, >3800RPM 12V
16 Ground 0V
17 Self Test Output (STO) PWM signal 0V-12V
18 Not Used
19 Not Used
20 Case Ground 0V
21 Idle Speed Control +8V to +11V Engine Running
22 Fuel Pump Control +12V Ignition On, 0V Engine Running
23 Knock Sensor +3V Engine Running
24 Not Used
25 Intake Air Temperature Sensor 0*C 3.9V, 20*C 3,1V, 40*C 2.2V
26 Not used
27 Auto Trans Power/Econ Switch Normal 12V, Econ 0V
28 Power Steering Pressure Switch 0V No Load, 12V Steering Load
29 HEGO (Oxygen Sensor) Input 0.1V - 0.8V with Engine Running
30 Transmission Position [p]3.8V-4.2V, [R]3.3V-3.7V, [N]2.8V-3.2V, [D]2.3V-2.7V, [3]1.8V-2.2V, [2]1.3V-1.7V, [1]0.8V-1.2V
Manual Transmission, Neutral 0V-0.1V, In gear 5Volts
31 Canister Purge 8V-10V with Engine Running
32 LPG Gas Shut Off LPG Off 12Volts, LPG On 0Volts
33 Electric Fan 2 Output Relay 2 & 3 Off 12V, Relay 2 & 3 On 0V
34 Data Output Link PWM Data
35 Automatic Transmission Solenoid (S3) 0V-12V
36 SPOUT (Spark Output) Ignition 7V average with Engine Running
37 Ignition Power 12V with Ignition On
38 Auto Trans Variable Pressure Solenoid (S5) 10V - 14V with Engine Running
39 Speed Sensitive Power Steering 0V-12V PWM signal
40 Ground 0Volts
41 Air Conditioning Compressor 12Volts Engaged, 0V Off
42 Transmission Oil Temp 20*C-3.5V, Normal Op Temp 1.0-3.6V
43 A/C Evaporator Air Temp 20*C 1.5V-2.0V
44 Blower Fan Speed High Speed 12V, Off 0V
45 MAP Manifold Absolute Pressure sensor Engine Running 100Hz - 105Hz
46 Signal Ground 0Volts
47 Throttle Position Sensor 0.7V closed, 4.5V WOT (Wide Open)
48 Self Test Input 0Volts for Self Test, 12V Normal operation
49 HEGO Ground 0Volts
50 Not Used
51 Auto Trans Gear Select Solenoid (S1) 0Volts off, 12V On
52 Auto Trans Gear Select Solenoid (S1) 0Volts off, 12V On
53 Electric Fan Output 1 12V Relay 1 Off-0V Relay 1 On
54 A/C Relay 0Volts A/C On, 12Volts A/C Off
55 Automatic Transmission Solenoid (S4) 0Volts Off, 12V On
56 PIP Profile Ignition Pick Up 0V - 12V on Ignition PIP
57 Ignition Power 0Volts Off, 12V Ignition On
58 Fuel Injection Ignition Bank 1,3,5 PWM On Fuel Injection
59 Fuel Injection Ignition Bank 1,3,5 0Volts Off, 12V On
60 Ground 0Volts
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26-12-11, 17:48
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#72
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Stage 5
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Re: Proiect old school XF Falcon / Granada
Pe la voi V6 nu se foloseste?
Poate ca tot la Megasquirt o sa ajung pana la urma....
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04-01-12, 12:39
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#73
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Stage 2
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 27
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Re: Proiect old school XF Falcon / Granada
EEC V e cu totul altceva fata de EEC IV. De asemenea EEC V e foarte restrictiv si nu am auzit de nimeni care fi reusit sa ii schimbe setarile , decat in limite foarte mici.
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04-01-12, 12:43
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#74
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Re: Proiect old school XF Falcon / Granada
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Originally Posted by T-N-T
EEC V e cu totul altceva fata de EEC IV. De asemenea EEC V e foarte restrictiv si nu am auzit de nimeni care fi reusit sa ii schimbe setarile , decat in limite foarte mici.
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google J3 chip
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06-01-12, 23:14
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#75
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Stage 2
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 57
Member of: [FORD]
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Re: Proiect old school XF Falcon / Granada
weekend dorim update....
Super tare proiectul,succes in tot ceea ce faci
Respectele mele si a multor altii
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